Gajim - 2025-08-27

hello im trying to add and message the c@jml.chat bot through the Gajim app on a pc but the message doesnt send

> hello im trying to add and message the c@jml.chat bot through the Gajim app on a pc but the message doesnt send > ...did you mean jmp.chat? ↺

yes please

wurstsalat pushed 4 commits to branch gajim/master other: Add script for generating minimized symbolic SVGs - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/5245cae10e55e513f9295200b95269c1a9e1270d other: Improve custom icons test - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/aa4878bc54501951fc139493d758c4acd7a4317c cq: Run SVG script on all Lucide icons - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/42aec025e1e0ba1ae8914d1eb3af4a67be32033d change: Icons: Replace all Feather icons with Lucide icons - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/e409a8a5bb20b099f774dce347f6017cb4518d6c

couldbe: You might want to ask in xmpp:discuss@conference.soprani.ca?join ✏

I am running Flatpak version and I observe, if I pull file from Rox file manager to Gajim, file get recognized as such, prepared for sending, but the button "Send file" doesn't get activated, so is impossible to drag and drop to send it, but then again I need to choose it from file list.

when searching messages, it also searches through aesgcm links lmao

I'm trying to find in which message my contact wrote the number "32" and it's basically impossible because all I see are aesgcm links..

Louis2: is the "send attachment" button next to the chat input clickable?

chud: so when seaching for a file, you would rather not find it? How would that work? I see that it's not optimal to render these links as they are, but how would you otherwise search for files?

Those links are all hashes or b64s I don't know. They literally tell me nothing and there is no scenario when I would like to search part of their hash or whatever it is

> Louis2: is the "send attachment" button next to the chat input clickable? Yes ↺

cal0pteryx: about file search, I'd omit aes links with hashed or encoded filenames from search and only show them optionally, but not for a standard text search. (Emcrypted) files are better searched in the media browser, once it lands imo

Once rich file transfers are established, actual file names (i.e. the ones indicated in file meta data) can be used for search as well, since there is no need to obfuscate file names anymore.

That'd be awesome, but what does it require? And how long do you think it will take for all major clients to implement it?

multiple clients already implement it, for example dino and cheogram

and kaidan

Most important is likely Conversations.

But if Cheogram supports it already, shouldn't take Daniel much to copy the implementation hopefully

not for e2e chats though right?

at least without SCE or similar... otherwise you leak filenames in plaintext which is very bad

> not for e2e chats though right? I understood that this was the point of the discussion

for e2e chats you need omemo2

and by that it's nothing imminent

not for e2e chats

but i think a significant part of IM communication happens also in public groupchats

but there we don't face the issue with aesgcm links usually?

I'm confused. didn't start the discussion with aesgcm links I'd relate to OMEMO? I haven't noticed obfuscated filenames in public chats yet.

> Once rich file transfers are established, actual file names (i.e. the ones indicated in file meta data) can be used for search as well, since there is no need to obfuscate file names anymore. So this solution here is just to wait for everybody to implement this and hope that my contacts client is up to date. ↺

the problem has nothing to do with aegscm links, other than this was the example they found in the search

every file upload can land on a domain where a server puts some hash in the path

if you search for "32" you can find links to wikipedia or a million other sites

besides, we dont need a different file sharing XEP to mark certain messages and offer filters for text searches

for example we could simply detect that a message contains only a link and nothing more, mark the message as link in the database, and offer the user to filter just for links, or exclude links from the search

> I think red hat has more resources than me red hat doesn't sponsor or support flathub, they maintain their own competing (?) repo

Thanks, now it's clear.

but yeah everything depends on us classifying messages and storing that information, for omemo chats we could treat a message that contains only a aesgcm link as FT database wise

one without any metadata attached, but they are optional even in the FT XEPs

> but yeah everything depends on us classifying messages and storing that information, for omemo chats we could treat a message that contains only a aesgcm link as FT database wise I think there was a MR for something along these lines: https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/merge_requests/1095 ↺

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Pippz, no unsolicited invitations here

> Pippz, no unsolicited invitations here OK no problem. Thanks anyway. ↺

> I think there was a MR for something along these lines: Yeah, everything which contains oob data is put into the filetranfer table

Iirc, it's months ago ✏

why does it take so long for file trasnfer to become available

when I switch window, the chatview jumps. only some chat views. fedora wayland kde

probably the ones with pictures in them

Yes we have some scrolling bugs with the view it's a notorious hard problem to solve

There is a bug that does not let me connect to my homeserver via Gajim, my friend also likely experiences it since he cannot access his newly created account. I basically get "Invalid from attr in stream header" error and I cannot do anything about it, I have tried updating.

https://upload.projectsegfau.lt:5443/upload/9e22c3b90cc4f0808928f72766739e4fc1dadbae/Vij6jY2tzgNtWOp3wmi4isU4dDvcmAmLB6VC5QW2/2025-08-27-230617.jxl

Polarity: if you're running Gajim 2.3.4 this is likely because you have an invalid locale

no

this is because your homeserver is likely misconfigured

open the xml console and show the first stanza on connect, it shows the stream header

> open the xml console and show the first stanza on connect, it shows the stream header I am not the owner of the server. ↺

it has a from attribute, and it needs to match the domain of your JID

Plus, I can access it from dino, the way I am communicating right now.

> I am not the owner of the server. You don't need admin access The xml console is accessible from Gajim

or start gajim with -v

then show the stanza in the console right before this error

10 bucks some http server answers the request with some html error

https://upload.projectsegfau.lt:5443/upload/9e22c3b90cc4f0808928f72766739e4fc1dadbae/Lcle1TROnjSFnCbHcoDWeNUX1OUhXg6yOobw4Ny8/2025-08-27-233307.jxl

I should probably just send it in a text file form.

yeah ok its the lang issue

start Gajim with LANG=en_US.UTF-8

or fix your locale settings on your system

https://upload.projectsegfau.lt:5443/upload/9e22c3b90cc4f0808928f72766739e4fc1dadbae/hYAoz3Mmfa4Gna9Wml2NJWhXMJdEFmurTjRf0Ic1/2025-08-27-233956.jxl

How did I mess this up?

Anyways, yeah.

yeah we found out that many users have set C.UTF-8

on their systems, for whatever reason

this will be fixed in the next version, and we will fallback to en_US automatically

> on their systems, for whatever reason This was automatic and done by systemd. ↺