Gajim - 2025-08-15

lovetox pushed 2 commits to branch gajim/master fix: Notifications: Don’t raise notification for messages from blocked users - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/5c6f5f073b0f4493e0da76bd20895c24a52445a1 fix: ChatList: Don’t show messages from blocked users - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/c5e60f00e85c0b8e8757f06cbb2f87266c565991

lovetox pushed 1 commits to branch gajim/master imprv: OMEMO: Improve info messages on first contact - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/03e5940dc5f2ce3858fb68bf6acb476f9efae510

How do I paste a code block so it appears as fixed width text possibly inside it's own scrollable window and with a "copy" button for ease of copy-pasting by the receiving user ?

I notice there is a "paste as code block" option in the send message textbox. however it does not appear to work correctly ?

https://chat.domn.net:5443/upload/500b07a7efeff7dd5a382d5bf3fa0d30cec686c6/EIWZBe3jXHEM7d174GUQqZtpAhXqrUxHPL7tA23K/d140e3c8-d3d1-4ce2-939f-cd1bdfe02f7b.png

Here is what it does when I try ``` The programs included with the Debian GNU/Linux system are free software; the exact distribution terms for each program are described in the individual files in /usr/share/doc/*/copyright. ```

how embarrassing, it worked

I retried .. any it worked in the other chat as well, sorry for the disruption and I found the place this is explained in the documentation as well https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/wikis/help/gajimhints I couldn't find it from wiki help page but it was there

https://chat.domn.net:5443/upload/500b07a7efeff7dd5a382d5bf3fa0d30cec686c6/GvUm8VUBRJzoBVJ30djwqv81BWdpNKuPRW056Vfh/4c9523de-0f66-47ae-b106-15ce73e8446d.png

i dont see anythin explained on that page regarding code blocks, what do you mean

Is there a place that displays all commands and syntax of the send message textbox ? I tried F1 but this had no effect There is a Help menu which leads to these two addresses https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/wikis/home https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/wikis/help/gajimfaq but from there you have to click to this page https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/wikis/help/Help and then this page https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/wikis/help/GajimHints

ah now i see it, it shows the formating for codeblocks there

It is the second to last entry of gajim hints

https://chat.domn.net:5443/upload/500b07a7efeff7dd5a382d5bf3fa0d30cec686c6/CxnrvLbt0NlDsrjLhFDho1n6Zju2viM3Spl8UjEd/effd4527-c9b0-4e96-8e8f-b84c9772fa7e.png

we have a formatting button left to the input box

i would guess a user uses them and learns with that about the syntax without reading a help page

granted codeblock is not in there and could be added

I would suggest adding formatting syntax and the /commands rapid information on the keyboard shortcut page and changing the keyboard shortcut from CTRL+SHIFT+/ to "F1"

Also spoilers ... are supported I believe, but I am not able to find them at this instant

shodan, no there are no spoilers

Ah I mistake with another project lemmy https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-ui/issues/3287#issuecomment-3146061238 Hmm is there link syntax ? [testing](https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-ui/issues/3287#issuecomment-3146061238)

no

should I create a thing about these ?

there is already

https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/issues/11781

More documentation and help is always good, but i think its more useful to have it on the Wiki

there many people can contribute, and errors can be fixed and are not hardcoded into a Gajim version

This is very vague The linked XEP-0071 XEP-0394, do not mention spoiler or link syntax even thought a XEP about spoiler exists XEP-0382: Spoiler messages

also Search Engines can index it, and people can find it

shodan, we can only implement standards, we will not invent our own formatting syntax

XEP0071 is xhtml, html has <a>

I tried searching on google xmpp gajim how to code block syntax https://dev.gajim.org/ValdikSS/gajim-plugins/-/tree/master/syntax_highlight https://discourse.igniterealtime.org/t/syntax-format-to-send-one-to-one-message-for-archiving/81391 https://dev.gajim.org/muelli/gajim-plugins https://github.com/troystribling/agent_xmpp

Is link labelling syntax not part of the xmpp specification ? I mean something similar to the following [my example website](https://example.com)

> XEP0071 is xhtml, html has <a> ^ ↺

there is indeed no issue for the spoilers feature

but just so you know it has nothing to do with message formatting, you cannot mark parts of a message as spoiler

you can only mark the whole message as spoiler, so its more like a info you send with the message, and not text styling

can't figure it out

all there is this

https://chat.domn.net:5443/upload/500b07a7efeff7dd5a382d5bf3fa0d30cec686c6/AlPAwAMIwmKemx0ae7j4EFzZpePnmw3sXDYbtdlx/58071d33-79cc-4013-8c32-2c4736e5ad49.png

I tried posting in the debug console but ``` <message to="gajim@conference.gajim.org" type="chat" xmlns="jabber:client" id="61a2b43b-aca7-497b-a585-47cf1a1523f5"> <body>my example website: https://example.com</body> <html xmlns="http://jabber.org/protocol/xhtml-im"> <body xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"> <p> <a href="https://example.com">my example website</a> </p> </body> </html> </message> ```

produces no output, I can't image any sane user going through these length to post an [url](http://example.com)

What about just parsing the internationally accepted syntax [url](http://example.com) no xep needed ?

i think you misunderstood me

i posted you a issue where the topic is implementing XEP0071

you asked me if xmpp has a spec for sending links

the answer is yes, XEP0071

but its not implemented in Gajim

hence the issue i linked you

> internationally accepted syntax you mean the markdown spec? https://www.markdownguide.org/basic-syntax/

if there is a XEP that incorporates that spec into xmpp, we will consider implementing it, but this is a discussion you can take to the xsf channel

and also dont forget, the GUI a client offers a user to add a link to there message can be vastly different to how its sent over the wire

nobody suggest users need to write html to style theire messages, a client who would implement this would usually have a fitting Message Editor that lets the user make the formatting, e.g. Microsoft Word does for example ✏

nobody suggest users need to write html to style their messages, a client who would implement this would usually have a fitting Message Editor that lets the user make the formatting, e.g. Microsoft Word does for example ✏

Ok it's difficult figure out what is and isn't implemented yeah markdown would be better than nothing except for having to put two spaces at the end of every sentence" "

here is what I would like adding a link or other formatting look like

https://chat.domn.net:5443/upload/500b07a7efeff7dd5a382d5bf3fa0d30cec686c6/fZ7OLEzJodgZyqrekxuJeonjH1Q8dCARBKUIiiKc/2025-08-15_06h56s49_x.mp4

lovetox pushed 1 commits to branch gajim/master imprv: StartChat: Remember last filter settings - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/8564823e46ef6397f45a6211cb6087cf7304b923

Hi Gajim users, could you help me out? a couple weeks ago Gajim started behaving very slowley. latest version on openSUSE tumbleweed. Now it doesn't even connect ! there's an account password-related failure. I can connect perfectly fine via Dino (that's how I am connected to this room now), but not via Gajim even though it's the same account, and this happens on both my accounts! very weird. that's bad because I have used Gajim for many years and I like it. What happens is that I open Gajim, am prompted for the account password and then after a while I am prompted for the password again like it's not the right one. Tried uninstalling, deleting the leftover files, then reinstalling. nope.

also, when I run it via the terminal I can see ambigiuous messages relating to passwords and keys which I don't understand. Again, I can connect to both accounts perfectly fine with Dino and the same credentials! Any ideas about what to try next? perhaps a commandline parameter?

please go to the About dialog, troubleshooting -> debug info

and post these here

Thanks. I don't have a `troublshooting` section. only About and Credits. here's the About section: Gajim 2.2.0 A fully-featured XMPP chat client GTK Version: 4.18.6 GLib Version: 2.84.3 Pango Version: 1.56.4 PyGObject Version: 3.52.3 cairo Version: 1.18.4 pycairo Version: 1.28.0 python-nbxmpp Version: 6.2.0 libsoup Version: 3.6.5

There is a debug console under View

you can start gajim from console with -v

wait till the password prompt comes, type your pass in, let it run a bit and send me the output of the console

ok

you may want to defirect the output to a file, as it will be much

problem solves thanks to lovetox!

is chats jumping around during synchronization even considered a bug

I would say no, except you find a reason why it's super important that something does not jump while you look new messages getting added

not super important, it's only unusable for a minute or two on first run and also gives off quite an impression of unfinished software. but yeah not critical. I'd say it sets the expectations right for a new user.

2 minutes syncing? Sounds like bad connection or really slow server

Or you are joined 50 groupchat

Drag n drop malfunctions. When I drop a file onto a GoDream, it either hangs on drop files here, if it's a larger file, or hangs on drop files here for a while, if it's a smaller file, and then nothing happens, and then it doesn't even let me drag anything. fedora 40 and latest flatpak gajim

also would be nice if it saved message drafts between runs tbh

chud: X11?

yes

Sadly a known gtk 4 issue. It works on wayland

bruh

I was about to install it from distro repos. won't help right?

We should probably detect x11 here and bail, rather than freezing

friend tells me it works for him on opensuse gajim 1.8.4 with kde x11

We don't save drafts to disk?

> friend tells me it works for him on opensuse gajim 1.8.4 with kde x11 oh right that gajim is just outdated ↺

gajim in fedora repos is 1.7.3?💀

chud: everything before gajim 2.0 is gtk3 (there it worked)

I switched to wayland and finally drag and drop in gajim works. however i get other issues with other apps that are perhaps more severe.

are there any working (actually working!) xmpp clients that don't use gtk and support omemo..

Does "working" include calls as well? Everybody comes with a different set of features for xmpp to be usable or a client to actually "work".

I know the only desktop client that supports calls is dino. So I know that's too much to ask.

I mean at least omemo+mam+bookmarks

lovetox pushed 1 commits to branch gajim/master fix: Stream: Don’t set invalid xml:lang attribute - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/00459a544cca8266ce54d32005ec11a6cab852ca

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