Gajim - 2025-08-11

> I've been through the discussion about auto-play quickly. > If I may add my two cents as a user : > Auto play of video is a very bad practice from a UI perspective. Generally, making an action without the user input is bad practice. It's very prone to errors and abuse (think a trick video Ith abusive or violent content auto playing, and all other minor cases). > It's been a battle in the HTML standard to prevent auto play from video and enforce it. Major companies always finding or asling for workarounds. > Not only comparing social networks or platforms with instant messaging is irrelevent, like it was well mentionned, it's juste not a good point. What YouTube, Facebook, Insta… are doing is bad practice. 👍 ↺

Gajim's gitlab appears to be down right now

https://share.conversations.im/theqwertycoder/message/sHGWtMQ4cl2MpXzu/8-4tPEXQRSinwsZnV7yCCg.jpg

Hi, I am on a fresh installation of 1 9.5. I cannot see any plugin appear in the plugins window. Followed README of gajim-plugins mirror from github, since gitlab is down. But still the plugins list is empty. Also couldn't check the plugins wiki on gitlab. I see a install from zip button there. How to generate a zip for a plugin, say, acronym-expander? ✏

Because 1.9.5 is to old for the plugins in the repo

Why not install 2.3.x?

actually, I have added some features to 1.9.5 for personal use. So want to stick to it for some time 😐

> Gajim's gitlab appears to be down right now The same for translate.gajim.org ✏ ↺

@lovetox, How can I generate zips of needed plugins from a gajim-plugins commit around the time of v1.9.5? ✏

It has nothing to do with zips, you need to checkout the last commit where the plugin was compatible with 1.9.5

Check commits about update manifests

Zips are here https://ftp.gajim.org/plugins/

Check how it is constructed

Tried with acronyms 1.5.0, which was the last release before gajim 1.9.5. But it says archive malformed

Downloaded from the site?

> Downloaded from the site? yup, downloaded from the ftp link

Just tried after switching to a commit and manually creating a zip and it's working. 😃

Hello there. I wanted to ask if there are any plans for implementing Audio/Video Calls into Gajim, or if it's currently on hiatus? If so, is there any resource saying what seems to be the problem for it to work properly? I noticed that on the wiki it says it's not maintained, but that the Linux version could potentionally work with the right dependencies, but I wasn't able to make it work nonetheless even after installing them.

No it does not work. Problems are dependencies that support what we need and implementing it in Gajim, much work

Hi. I just started Gajim on a newly updated Debian trixie. Works fine so far, but at least the pen-icon is missing after I corrected a message. There is only a placeholder image visible. Can someone tell me which package I need for this?

maybe adwaita-icon-theme

> maybe adwaita-icon-theme already installed

probably it works only if you enable also the adwaita theme ..

because the theme you use does not support that icon

icon is called document-edit-symbolic

check your theme

Hmm... My active icon theme is Tango. It seems document-edit-symbolic is not available there.

yeah .. i think the solution is that we need to ship our own icon

you could copy the icon from adwaita icon theme folder

to the hicolor folder

then your theme will fall back to that

or simply duplicate some fitting icon in your theme and name it like that

It does not bother me that much. Just wanted to understand why it does not work. I was under the impression, there is a defined set of icons always available, and if some icon theme does not provide an icon, a general fallback is used.

Aparently that is not the case. I can find document-edit-symbolic.svg in my file system.

Maybe it is a missing Debian setting.

> Aparently that is not the case. I can find document-edit-symbolic.svg in my file system. ...in the Adwaita directory

Geany seems to install some icons in the Tango directory, even if I have removed the tango icon theme before.

there are some icons defined which every icon theme *should* support

but this is not one of them

so we should ship it ourself

and no there is no general fallback

Is that a new icon? Because I remember it showing with 1.9.5 on bookworm.

no its not new, but you maybe used a different theme or tango removed it

seems you can configure themes to inherit from other themes, but this would also mean to modify the theme, so you can simply copy the icon anyway

https://www.reddit.com/r/archlinux/comments/10b8t89/question_how_to_set_a_fallback_icon_theme/

Okay. I did not change anything by myself so it must have come with some package update. Thanks for the input!

Do 24 Jul 2025 21:03:55 - lovetox: Andreas Säger, https://gajim.org/downloads/ > downgrading an existing install will most likely not work, so you need to install new, or use portable

why does gajim start lagging like hell after running for a while, memory leak??

how do i collect info about memory allocation or other things that could cause this, i don't know python and don't know how to debug it

> No it does not work. Problems are dependencies that support what we need and implementing it in Gajim, much work what dependencies exactly btw? ↺

vlad: how much RES memory do you see used?

> vlad: how much RES memory do you see used? i would have to check, but right now it runs fine ↺

298MiB

(for gajim)

thats kinda a lot but it doesnt hang

That's sounds very fine

i'll check again once it does

because i dont really see my memory usage shooting up when it hangs, it might be some recursive forking voodoo going on

or race condition

Also check the cpu. How do you notice that it's slow?

When switching chats?

i notice because it lags like hell

2fps

yesterday i sent someone a lot of large files and he downloaded them, he couldn't restart gajim because that would cancel the download, and it lagged a lot for him

i use 19 year old hardware and gajim normally works fine, until it suddenly doesnt

the other guy uses modern powerful hardware, so no its not just a me-problem

it doesn't really have aything to do with switching chats

it might happen with a lot of chat backlog

also why is scrolling randomly way too fast when i hover somewhere on the right side near the scroll bar (not ontop of it)?

i use a trackpoint btw, so it could have something to do with me holding middle click?

(even though i don't think that this is actually taken as input)

normal cpu usage is about 10-20%

70 when scrolling, but no lag

if i scroll too fast (in this chat), probably because of backlog, it spikes to 99 and hangs for a sec, but still no constant lag, thats probably just a python problem or my ancient hardware

> how do i collect info about memory allocation or other things that could cause this, i don't know python and don't know how to debug it Which platforms do you and your friend use? Also a current Gajim version?

I'll fix the "unexpected fast scrolling" thing in a moment

wurstsalat pushed 1 commits to branch gajim/master fix: Message row actions: Don't scroll when hovering actions bar - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/5184698c3fa7ea150eb1196e0254f5b224add7a4

wurstsalat pushed 1 commits to branch python-nbxmpp/master release: 6.2.0 - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/python-nbxmpp/-/commit/d8ec2c1b86a0629db6b09e4de8a501b18d29a733

wurstsalat pushed 1 commits to branch gajim/master change: Raise nbxmpp version - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/d7e01b373784e5d1c5b69ed1644e9d69d72cb656

wurstsalat pushed 3 commits to branch gajim/master chore: Update IANA data - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/ac8da5d326f3eacffc51b1ce4a81001ce84069b4 chore: Flatpak: Update dependencies - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/e7ac431775dbf040eb8952a5f4762defac1682f3 chore: Update release issue template - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/ee30bb952c9fb1cdc87afc448da71ed0e3e68ec7

lovetox pushed 1 commits to branch gajim/master fix: Preview: Update widget in the main thread - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/d88b4fb9f440d9f991655a65e8758e90f18c24db

wurstsalat pushed 1 commits to branch gajim/master release: 2.3.4 - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/fac86c04efd40f7225e0c132709189bfa03ed9ba

wurstsalat pushed 1 commits to branch gajim/master chore: Update release issue template - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/c556d6e211ee723c9c5ef4197794edb9453a676e

Gajim 2.3.4 has been released 🎉 https://gajim.org/posts/2025-08-11-gajim-2.3.4-released/

> wurstsalat pushed 1 commits to branch python-nbxmpp/master > > release: 6.2.0 - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/python-nbxmpp/-/commit/d8ec2c1b86a0629db6b09e4de8a501b18d29a733 Wrong commit message :D It's actually 6.3.0

thanks we know, but too late now

> Gajim 2.3.4 has been released 🎉 https://gajim.org/posts/2025-08-11-gajim-2.3.4-released/ french translation ready ✌️ ↺

Thanks a lot!

> Usually if you click on the message a second time it's focused this workaround doesn't work if you're clicking on an old message that just got replied to rather than a message from the search results ↺

Friends, maybe someone asked if the creators of this client will transfer data after the EU enters into force the law on chat control