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v
I have a prosody server with the rss module enabled and configured. When I use Gajim they appear under the services available. Once I select the rss feed and subscribe I do not see how this presents in Gajim. Can anyone shed some light on this for me?
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cal0pteryx
v: Gajim does not offer pubsub viewing capabilities.
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v
Thank for the quick reply!
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karcio
hi, installed latest gajim on debian. I can see this issue: https://bin.disroot.org/?8c286710d216d5ae#CiHAUsyHkzEXSZeqMfzy6xz825Wr5MefPD7yE8TGohED anyone can help?
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karcio
I think this is an issue: `ValueError: Input contains prohibited or unassigned codepoint: U+0009`
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cal0pteryx
Looks like someone in a specific group chat has a nick with disallowed characters
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karcio
could be because I am login to the same chat from mobile and PC or any variation of that? I just looks and all nicks looks correct, just I see double me✎ -
karcio
could be because I am login to the same chat from mobile and PC or any variation of that? I just look and all nicks looks correct, just I see double me ✏
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lovetox
We would need more logs
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lovetox
Try enabling debug logging in pref advanced
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lovetox
And send us 200 lines before the error shows up
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karcio_
I can provide some update here- if I use disroot.org account - all is fine - when I use jabber.hot-chilli.net I see issue. Maybe issue is in domain which contains “-“ in name ?
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cal0pteryx
karcio_: no, definitely not. We would need logs.
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karcio
logs I've provided does not help?
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karcio
could you provide where I can find gajim logs. Was looking in /var/log can not find
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cal0pteryx
> Try enabling debug logging in pref advanced
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karcio
done - this is debug https://bin.disroot.org/?0412807f728af201#8pws6v1kfmj2jvbXq61hTLAnxyvXcVoCZLC3zMdHymyj
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lovetox
No that's the exception from the dialog
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lovetox
We need the 100 lines before that, which are only in the debug logs which you must enable then reproduce the error to catch it
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karcio
https://bin.disroot.org/?3244e2cbb22b2660#8ynVAFnsNp6EFw7CMM8U8JjZHyKcNJ5z5D9XQPCEhQjJ
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karcio
this is all from start today
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ironcastor
how does "enable KeepassXC integration" in advanced settings work?
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ironcastor
i enabled because i wanted to just copy my password from keepass when i try to login but it doesn't seem to do anything
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warrior
> i enabled because i wanted to just copy my password from keepass when i try to login but it doesn't seem to do anything i didn't know you can do that - amazing ↺
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ironcastor
warrior, does it work for you?
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lovetox
https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/wikis/KeepassXC
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karcio
issue resoved :D
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karcio
*resolved
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ironcastor
>https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/wikis/KeepassXC it worked after installing keepass2-plugin-keepasshttp
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lovetox
sounds weird, Gajim does not request passwords via http
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lovetox
further keepass is not keepassXC
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ironcastor
yeah weird
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shodan
Is it possible to revert my Gajim chat history and contacts database back to 1.9.5 I really cannot continue using 2.3.3, it is far too difficult to use Even though it is better in many ways, the many regression, I cannot live with
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lovetox
try it
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lovetox
should work
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shodan
Where is the option to import the exported chat history ?
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shodan
Also finding 1.9.5 installer was very difficult, it seem all links now send to https://gajim.org/download/
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shodan
https://gajim.org/post/2024-09-30-gajim-1.9.5-released/ https://gajim.org//tags/release/ https://gajim.org/posts/2024-09-30-gajim-1.9.5-released/
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shodan
Fortunately, I had the old 1.9.5 installer somewhere It was also a struggle to find out to export chat history, I kept searching for it in gajim-preferences-chats but it's in accounts-manage accounts-"account name"->privacy->export chat history
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shodan
I also tried to put each of my chats, into a its own single workspace, I was hoping I could just switch workspace and never interace with the chat list again. But unfortunately, clicking a workspace but re-opens the chatlist and closes the chat. It seems there is no way go get rid of the chatlist or the workspace list :\
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shodan
ah maybe I need gajim-history-manager ?
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shodan
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shodan
Is there not an chat history import button ? ✏
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alexia
> Is there not an chat history import button ? There is
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alexia
navigate to your account on the bottom left, then hit the button with the three-dot icon and head to Advanced > Synchronize History
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shodan
alexia this does not open a dialog to select the folder fo the export It only syncs the server, which only has 7 days of history
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alexia
oh sorry I did not realize that the intention was to import some sort of on-disk backup
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alexia
I thought it was about MAM
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shodan
The output of the Export Chat History function
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shodan
Our MAM was corrupted recently, I don't know how long it keeps data for but it doesn't seem reliable for storing messages from 3 years ago
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alexia
hm, looking at the output of the export function I don't think it's _intended_ to be re-importable and moreso for archiving purposes
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alexia
like it's just a textfile
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shodan
I put back the %APPDATA%\Gajim I copied from 2.3.3 before the wipe, and I recovered my history but this is ... this mean backups are impossible
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shodan
nor are migration
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shodan
if the %APPDATA%\Gajim gets corrupt, that's it you lose your history
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shodan
Also, the Export Chat List ... export text in reverse order ! And are impossible to read with meat eyes
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shodan
What is the Export Chat List function then ? human and machine can't really read it ?
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alexia
my export shows up in the same order as it is in Gajim, just in plain text instead of with avatars and alike, which makes sense it's only a textfile but yeah I think this is just meant for archiving, not for migration, the idea there is probably to use MAM You're free to open a feature request though
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shodan
but the MAM is not reliable, you can't put the MAM on a usb disk
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alexia
well no ofc it can't be put on a USB, this isn't sneakernet, and MAM *should* be reliable If something went wrong it should probably be logged and reported this seems a bit like an XYProblem situation to me, are you looking to have Gajim be portable?
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shodan
If you can't put your history in a file and then restore it from a file, then you will certainly lose it. The MAM will eventually be destroyed, it's a certainty. Even if it weren't, nobody can access the MAM except server admin so it's not really usable.
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shodan
All my friends have reported to have lost their entire chat history multiple times already. Whenever they get a new phone, or computer it's mostly lost. I have the only whole copy of our discussion in that folder.
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alexia
everyone should be able to access their own MAM, and if your server dacays like it's getting CD rot then you probably shouldn't be relying on that server to begin with 😵💫 either way, I will ask again, are you looking to have Gajim + the database be more portable? Because that is a *concrete* issue that one could create an issue for. I could do that for you, if you so wish✎ -
alexia
everyone should be able to access their own MAM, and if your server dacays like it's getting CD rot then you probably shouldn't be relying on that server to begin with 😵💫 either way, I will ask again, are you looking to have Gajim + the database be more portable? Because that is a *concrete* problem that one could create an issue for on GitLab. I could do that for you, if you so wish ✏
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shodan
As far as I am concern, all existing servers are subject of decay, there does not exist a "reliable" server, of any kind anywhere Anything that I cannot put in a file, and restore from that file, is actively rotting as far as I am concerned. So I guess %APPDATA%\Gajim is this file, but it's full of "stuff", stuff that is going to break also eventually
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alexia
so I guess you're looking to have a more reliable way to port over the database / chat history between devices and/or Gajim installations, is that correct?
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shodan
I would have to understand the structure and purpose of the files in %APPDATA%\Gajim to tell you the correct way to frame it as a feature request
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shodan
If you search google for "gajim how to import chat history" you will get this existing issue
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shodan
https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/issues/10015
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shodan
~/.local/share/gajim %appdata%\Gajim Is "it" break it and you're done
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alexia
would a backup function similar to that of Signal or Conversations work?
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alexia
both of those can take regular backups in a format that can later be re-imported by those apps respectively
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alexia
They aren't necessarily human-readable (signal's backups for example are encrypted) but they _can_ help you preserve chat history between devices or installations
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shodan
Yes, give me a file that has everything, then I wipe the computer Put the file back in and continue as if nothing happenned And there should be a system that does this automatically daily and sends it the backup folder
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alexia
alright I think that's a worthwhile issue to open, I'll see if such a thing already exists and, if it does, I'll be sure to upvote it if not, I'll create it
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shodan
That or Output the history as a properly formatted document, including an embedding of all files, all into a single file per conversation Which then could be open in any standard browser
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shodan
NOTE : I think the export chat having reverse order text is something that has been fixed earlier
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shodan
I think exporting one (or all) chats as human readable, formatted (or not) is a distinct issue from export to file and import to file for device migration
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shodan
I hadn't thought of this, but what if I were to leave windows and go to linux, would %APPDATA%\Gajim even work as a ~/.local/share/gajim ?
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alexia
Exports for archiving and Exports for migrating/importing are two distinct usecases yeah, I think there's value in having the latter
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alexia
Either way, I've opened an issue: https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/issues/12397
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shodan
sounds good 👍️
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shodan
!!! someone posted the "history as mark down" thing just 2 hours ago !! https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/issues/12395
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shodan
I guess I should file the issues that prevent me using 2.3.3 on there