Gajim - 2025-07-11

500 Mb is a colossal amount of RAM :D

I think that any program which uses more than 150 mb of RAM has some issues.

If you load one thousand 500KB images, that's 500 MB of ram

lockywolf: as always it depends what the program does

> I think that any program which uses more than 150 mb of RAM has some issues. So basically any actively developed program today? ↺

Yes

Trailsense app is useful, in background, and uses under 50 MB, if Android can be believed.

We will see what kind of performance optimization can be done later, once basics things work.

I remember when my main computer had 192 MiB of RAM, fourteen years ago. :D

But with 8 GiB of RAM I don’t care if a single program uses one sixteenth of it, as long as it isn’t a memory leak.

Resources are made to be used, and if it provides a feature I want to use then so be it.

I think a gtk helloworld with python eats like 80mb from the get go if I'm not mistaken.

86 MiB indeed, this one: https://www.gtk.org/docs/language-bindings/python/ :)

68 MiB if using the cairo renderer.

And 67 using OpenGL.

And now 67 using Vulkan as well?!

Ok, my initial measurement was wrong it seems.

58 MiB for cairo now.

And 112 MiB with ngl?!

Might as well just use electron at that point

chud, how much is an Electron hello world?

I don’t have Chromium installed here.

IIIRC roughly the same

But GTK is much more pleasant to work with than HTML for writing a graphical application.

You can’t compare just between memory usage of a hello world.

Subjective, most people choose Electron. Electron skills = web skills so much much more useful

Plus e.g. calls tech is basically built in into electron, like any web browser, while for gtk you only have abandonware or come up with smth yourself

Still getting the issue after a long time where the GTK file picker that Gajim uses just disappears while I'm scrolling for the right directory to save something. Using Sway. I remember Gajim itself used to crash/close similarly all the time and that actually got fixed eventually.

For uploading files I have worked around it by dragging and dropping, but for saving files there's not much I can do. Best workaround I know of is to just save it to a non-ideal place as fast as I can and then move the file where I actually want it after that.

So gajim does not crash anymore ? Just the file picker is gone?

bard: which Gajim version?

1.9.5

That's gtk3, you can try to update gajim to get gtk4

> So gajim does not crash anymore ? Just the file picker is gone? Yeah, I open it and it disappears within a few seconds. ↺

I'm on Guix System, will probably have to wait for it to get updated then. When did the gtk4 version come out? I think I've upgraded my packages in the last 2 or 3 weeks at least.

bard, 2.0.0 got released in February: https://gajim.org/posts/2025-02-28-gajim-2.0.0-released/

Thanks for the info!

Better request Guix to update the package, or maybe try to do it yourself, ask at xmpp:guix@chat.disroot.org?join if you want to do it!

I created a new user on my laptop and I'm trying to migrate Gajim there. • I've copied over ~/.config/gajim/ • My ~/.local/share/gajim is a symlink to /media/data/foo/gajim, and I've created this symlink under the new user too. • I've done `chown -r newuser` for both the data and the config directory. And yet, when I launch Gajim from the new user, my accounts and chats are not present... 🤔

Why is one a symlink?

Are you starting gajim with some arguments?

> Why is one a symlink? Because I didn't have enough space on my home partition. ↺

usually gajim takes its config from that path

if you dont add any special argumnets

you can try to move the dir away

and start gajim, and check if it creates the path, then you can be sure it takes it from there