Gajim - 2025-07-06

Codimp, this should not be necessary, you declared it already as a gtk dependency, it is automatically installed with gtk

wurstsalat pushed 1 commits to branch gajim/master cfix: Windows status icon: Honor initial show_trayicon setting - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/50b0bd42509ac2d0637ba077c98b380c0d946415

> Codimp, this should not be necessary, you declared it already as a gtk dependency, it is automatically installed with gtk Yep but if i don't add it here Gajim fail to start

Maybe i miss something in the cleaning part, but if i don't add it here it fail, i will retry soon

because you dont install the gtk dependencies probably

but i would not invest more time into this, wait until its merged in msys

then you can check on the next nightly if something is missing or not

Yep, i will wait and retry when it's merged

Is there any way i can bypass certificate checks when connecting to a server?

Every time im trying to connect to a test server it just. refuses to let me because of the selfsig certificate

i remember it asked if i wanted to add an exception, so i did, and yet it still doesnt let me connect and i have no idea where that exception went

The common name of the cert should match the name of the testserver

and there's no way to get around that? it's just for a small test and I don't want to have to bother

I don't think so.

craftxbox, what error do you exactly get that you cannot bypass

SSL Certificate Verification Error

https://transfur.science/6n1iajqr

yes, this has nothing to do with self signed

your cert is signed, but simply not valid for the host

either change the domain the host servs to what is mentioned in the cert

or create a self signed cert for the correct host

or use unencrypted connection

annoying. It'd be nice if there was a `thisisunsafe`/`badidea` bypass like Chrome has for the same issues

or you google 2 minutes how to create a cert for your host?

The point is it was just for a test, why bother going out of my way to replace the autogenerated certificate when its not going to actually matter

i understand that you dont want to invest any time, but providing such a dialog will be a risk for users and developers.

what server are you using?

It's ejabberd, not really relevant as i've already created a new certificate anyways

prosody for example has a dedicated cmd for this because its a common request from server devs

> prosodyctl cert generate example.com

creates a self signed cert for whatever domain you want, if thats not possible in ejabberd, a feature request there would be sensible

this made me remember that Monocles recently add a DANE feature (not related to this cert execption, but I remeber it and it's cool, maybe some day i will take a look to python lib to do this)

wurstsalat pushed 1 commits to branch gajim/master fix: Status icon: Call shutdown when handling Gajim core shutdown - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/4b1dec409106cf92278388cfc2c0308529b4d9e0

Is there a list of plugins one can install. I'm looking for a plugin that existed a while back which would set your status to whatever song you were listening to

> Is there a list of plugins one can install. I'm looking for a plugin that existed a while back which would set your status to whatever song you were listening to the "Now Listen" I guess? Did you check in plugins in settings? ↺

I see it but it looks like all it does is let you paste your current song via Alt+N

Maybe I am misremembering a Pidgin plugin that would set one's status

yes it only do this, I don't remember such other plugin for Gajim

Tristan Brice Velloza Kildaire, Codimp, TTBOMK, Gajim used to have that function builtin, without plugin, but it is gone.

oh interesting, maybe someone will make it a plugin one day

Mpris2 and user tune I guess. That was removed

> I'm trying to do UI stuff with Workbench. They have Blueprint support, which is way nicer to type down than XML Could the blueprint files be added to the repository? ↺

> Mpris2 and user tune I guess. That was removed As well as "user activitiy" and "user mood". Could be plugins, too, if somebody™ writes them. ↺

hannibal: when writing in blueprint, I do back and forth converting between workbench an gajim. But yes, working solely with blueprint and converting to xml during gajim build could be an option

https://gnome-team.pages.debian.net/blueprint-compiler/setup.html Gajim does not use meson though

does workbench not allow you to load xml files?

to make it short, no this would make a compile step necessary to develop on Gajim, i dont think that helps developers

> does workbench not allow you to load xml files? sure, that's what I meant by "back and forth" Adding a --dev flag for pre-launch building wouldn't be so hard :)

To support what workflow?

I just tested the app it does not allow you to load single file

sit does not allow you to save a single file

you cannot point it to Gajims files folder, modify a file click save

so you gonna ctrl+c everytime the whole file?

and at that point, what is the difference of copy/pasting xml vs blueprint? ✏

looks like we ended up in the same spot :D https://github.com/workbenchdev/Workbench/issues/1006

I tried GNOME Builder, but it does not seem to have previews for blueprint files

Another problem seems to be custom widgets, we use now more and more because of Gtk.Template

So the preview functionality will not work in most cases anyway

the only benefit at that point is the autocompletion

and a lot less typing

what im trying to get at, with the current state of the app, it does not matter if a file is blueprint in Gajim or not

it will not save you any time

I think it would save time, because even manually editing blp files (in any editor) without a preview is easier than editing xml. plus there is a vscode extension for language server support (haven't tested that yet)

but yes, integrating that into the workflow is harder than I thought initially

The VSCode extension offers docstrings and basic syntax error checking (incl. deprecations)

https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/blueprint-compiler/-/issues

does not give me confidence i want to depend on that tool for the build process

it should be relatively simple to create a dev script that batch decompiles all xml files into some working folder

> does not give me confidence i want to depend on that tool for the build process true ↺

https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=emeraldwalk.RunOnSave

could be maybe used, to configure a shell command, that after saving a blp file, calls the compiler and saves the result to the gui folder

so basically auto compile on save

that could be a workflow, yes

gajim 2.3.2 support video calls with Conversations?

> gajim 2.3.2 support video calls with Conversations? no, Gajim don't have audio/video calls support ↺

Codimp: thank you

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Hi, I just tried to reinstall gajim after a new install of win11. I copied all files unter %appdata%/gajim, but the account is not there though. what am I missing? I have a complete backup of the old hdd...

how did you install Gajim?

lovetox pushed 1 commits to branch gajim/master fix: Styling: Add extra CSS on Windows to fix issues - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/2566dc7a266a13e8b9a1986e0b6891390bc3ab15

> how did you install Gajim? with the installer from the website

was 2.3.2 before

are you sure you did not install the portable?

strange. again, after 1-2 reboots, the account is there.

are you sure you have not 2 installations? like for example one from the MS Store

yes, I got the normal version.

and yes, only 1 install.

it repaired itself...

:-)

Seems space rays flipped a bit ;)

I think only the password was missing. looked like everything was gone for me, sorry.

yes on a new install, without password, Gajim cannot load any groupchats or avatars, so it looks pretty empty

but the fact that it asks for a password, is evidence that some configuration exists

yes.. I didn't enter the password for quite a long time and rebooted twice, then gajim said it was offline and showed the chats and so on.

So I just installed gajim and logged in to my existing account and for some reason it's very laggy. I tried to send three messages to my contact and then we wanted those reached to him. It didn't even load all my chats on the some of them and gajim cannot even close. So when I click close it just doesn't react. I was wondering whether the problem was so I opened the XML console and I saw hundreds and hundreds of presence updates coming. I think they are from the past it's just an endless stream and I think the whole server bandwidth is occupied by this. This is why I cannot do anything and this is also why gajim is so lagg - It's busy parsing on this garbage. I have no idea why these are being sent, Whether it's Gajim's or my service fault, but it's just so funny, endless garbage being sent for no reason, just xml braindamage. I'll let it run for a while I guess, hoping it will calm down, but I wonder how much bandwidth this is going to use on nothing. A gigabyte or 10.

if its not over after a few seconds, its a infinite loop

is it incoming presence? or outgoing?

Incoming, mostly seems to be from group chats. It seems to be mostly affiliations, but also occasionally <photo>

As of now still not over.

if its the same groupchat, simply leave it

photo requests are normal, and they can go on for hours, because we do one only every 2 seconds

if you join a MUC with 1000 participants, this will go on, but this should not be a problem for performance

It's different group chats including this one.

Oh wow, it seems to have stopped now.

are you sure its really to many? to impact performance, it would need to be hundreds of stanzas per second

Nope, here it goes again.

> are you sure its really to many? to impact performance, it would need to be hundreds of stanzas per second It seems to be that. New ones show up very fast. It scrolls very fast. ↺

It's so funny I would record a video, but I'm afraid there may be some private-ish data in there.

Oh, and it seems to reconnect to my server once in a while.

your server probably kicks you because the queue on the server gets to big

because Gajim cannot retrieve the data faster then it grows on the server

Yeah, that's what I think. But why is it sending all this garbage, I don't know. I don't think presences are sent because a client requests them are they?

i would suggest you leave some non essential mucs

presences are sent when you join a groupchat, the groupchat tells you with them who is in the groupchat

> Yeah, that's what I think. But why is it sending all this garbage, I don't know. I don't think presences are sent because a client requests them are they? On the other hand, I have this very same account on this very same server running just fine on Android on conversations right now. In fact, I am texting from this account. ↺

I just noticed a form was sent among those presences.