Gajim - 2025-04-14

Hello

is there a way to integrate password-store with gajim?

that is: https://www.passwordstore.org/

==MS==: https://github.com/nazarewk/keyring_pass might work

Oooo

I'll try it

Thanks!

Hello, it would be cool to have a "mark as unread from here" option on messages, via the "…" menu: sometimes we open a conversation on Gajim, or the window just get the focus and a conversation is all mark as read but we don't have time to read it now, so we can write it as "unread from a certain message" to remember to read it later, what do you think about it?

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That's what we had message reminders in mind for

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J00: you're testing in front of ~400 people. Your message went through

> That's what we had message reminders in mind for oh cool, it will be a feature in the activity feed right? ↺

Yes

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Gajim has some of the best admin/moderation features. I appreciate it.

Is there a way to ban a user that dropped spam & then left tho? I can moderate out the messages, but I would prefer to outcast the transgressor.

After leaving there is no longer an affiliation

You can still see the jid on newer versions via the details menu

And afaik add that manually to the ban list

Details menu?

On what version are you?

If you click the avatar of the users message it should show a ban option

2.0.3 (Unix/Linux)

Ah, ha. I did not know you could _right-click_ an avatar.

But, alas no real JID.

Is an owner not an administrator?

What are you seeing ? The option is not available ?

User left the room so no moderation options.

“Details” shows an ID that is room@server/RoomID … not actual JID

My user is “Owner” affiliation.

You click the avatar , a menu should open, what are you seeing in this menu

Just DM, Details, Execute command … rest are unavailable but they are gone from the room

(aside, I had debug logs on (still don’t know why rooms disconnect), so I was able to find the _real_ JID in those logs, but I want to know in the future how to deal with this)

The ban option should be available from this menu, I will check later what the conditions are

User in the room should be irrelevant

There is another user up in the history a bit. But I don’t have the ban ability for that either.

Moderation / Administration are “Not available”

If you are not an owner or admin you obviously can't see the JID in a pseudonymous channel, nor ban the account.

But if you are a admin you should be able to see the full JID even after departure

Maybe not if the post was pulled from MAM only? 🤔 ✏

You probably can't see the real jid if the user has left the room

This very much could be…

Since I still have this issue where my rooms always need to be manually connected to, I am always pulling from history

(which history is layman’s for MAM IIRC)

i just checked, its because the user left

we check if a action is allowed normally

for example an admin can not ban an owner

because we dont store the affiliations of users we can currently only check if the user is present

Hmm… is this considered an oversight then? Dropping spam then leaving seems like normal spammer behavior 😛

hmm .. yeah i think about lifting these restrictions

worst case you try to ban someone, and get an error back that its not possible

Roger. Well thanks for helping me debug this. 🫡

Given the weird tone of the user, I think it was the same user as prior, just under another alias, so hopefully the JID ban will work.

I am not at my PC right now, but I am 99% sure an channel admin can see the real JID after a person has left. That was a recent feature addition precisely because of drive by spam issues AFAIK.

but we have no obvious way

toastal what if you use the Add Contact menu

does it show the real jid?

As far as I can see, there is no ability to Add Contact. No right click menus or otherwise.

no its also based on presence

yeah its hidden

(the room is semi-anonymous for admins/owners ftr)

On the `ejabberd` side… I can pull the history, but since I retracted all the messages before looking, the history was full of retractions instead of actual messages.

You could ban the user before moderating their messages

Hindsight _is_ 20:20 :)

i think we need to move the ban option into the message menu

I would be in favor of that. I think that was the UX ’issue’ here.

The … comes up on hover & retract was my first instinct, not right-click user avatar (did not know was possible)

> i think we need to move the ban option into the message menu Or you could add an option to ban the user when moderating their messages ↺

Or the moderate all option included a checkbox to “Ban also?”

Well this is a bit productive after all seeing a potential UX improvment :)

Cheogram does it the opposite way, if you click ban, it asks if you'd also like to moderate all their recent messages

I don't think one is right and the other is wrong or anything, just sharing what other's do (:

I mean you might actually want it in both locations depending on which action the admin thinks of first. I agree there isn’t a ‘correct’ option here. ✏

"why not both?" I like it :)

In this case it kinda makes sense since the overlap is probably pretty high. If you are banning a user, it’s probably something they said that you don’t want to expose users to. & if moderating a message, you might also want to consider if the user is toxic or not at that very moment.

It saves a step while making the options more convenient & discoverable albeit redundant

But 01:30… Gotta hit the hay tho …& again, thanks everyone for your help + thoughts. ✏

perhaps a moderation log style thing, where recent moderator actions (along with the JID of relevant parties) are saved and can be looked over after the fact?

wurstsalat pushed 1 commits to branch gajim/master fix: Message actions box: Fix pressing space to focus input; prevent error with no contact - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/68715d13d112014cf52d4acac903c55453d999f6