Gajim - 2025-03-09

> jg: https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/tree/master/flatpak#install-plugins thank you also would you know if gajim still works for phone calls for users using jmpchat doesnt look like im able to receive/ make calls like before ↺

or are people just using sip now

Am I the only one that's been having problems with search after the update to 2.0.x? It searches fine for me but when I click the result it just scrolls endlessly and _sometimes_ reaches the correct message. On 2.0.1 from Arch repos.

This is also happening in NixOS on 2.0.1 (https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/master/pkgs/applications/networking/instant-messengers/gajim/default.nix)

zayd: yes scroll is currently a bit buggy we need to work on that

I also notice that since GTK4, switching chats often leads to a "short scroll blink", not sure how to describe it better, it's like it scrolls up and down real fast. I've also witnessed that in dino so maybe that's just a GTK4 bug.

## Versions: - OS: Linux 6.1.0-27-amd64 - GTK Version: 4.16.12 - PyGObject Version: 3.50.0 - GLib Version : 2.82.4 - libsoup Version: 3.6.4 - python-nbxmpp Version: 6.0.0 - Gajim Version: 2.0.1 ## Traceback ``` Traceback (most recent call last): File "/app/lib/python3.12/site-packages/gajim/gtk/chat_stack.py", line 657, in _on_action client.get_module("MUC").set_affiliation( File "/app/lib/python3.12/site-packages/nbxmpp/task.py", line 107, in func_wrapper return _setup_task(task, self._client, callback, user_data) # type: ignore ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/app/lib/python3.12/site-packages/nbxmpp/task.py", line 86, in _setup_task task.add_done_callback(callback) File "/app/lib/python3.12/site-packages/nbxmpp/task.py", line 182, in add_done_callback raise ValueError("Unknown callback object") ValueError: Unknown callback object ``` ## Steps to reproduce the problem ...

nicoco: it's not a bug, we did this as a workaround for another bug

lovetox: do you have some info about the bug you worked around? I think I asked before but I forgot the answer and I also can't find it anymore.

I will answer later

No rush

> Am I the only one that's been having problems with search after the update to 2.0.x? It searches fine for me but when I click the result it just scrolls endlessly and _sometimes_ reaches the correct message. On 2.0.1 from Arch repos. zayd, here's a workaround: After you click the search result, Gaijm will be loading messages that are newer than it. Thus it will be scrolling down. Scroll up to stop it, and then click on the search result again to jump to it. ↺

It's not very reliable, so you can try to repeatedly click the search result while trying to scroll up

wurstsalat pushed 1 commits to branch gajim/master fix: Helpers: Check for empty bytes objects when loading file async - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/c3ccf6759c87ca316ce9d2e4f930bc2ba9133fd7

mesonium, the commit text is not right on the textview MR

Ow, how did that happen.

Better? :)

some day you need to tell me how you get into this situation

do you use git merge?

yeah almost, you need to write "Fixes #1234" in your extended commit

CCBUG, not sure what this means, but it will not trigger anything in gitlab

I know kde devs use this terminology to ref bugs, which not directly get fixed by the commit but are related ✏

> some day you need to tell me how you get into this situation Please don't ask. I think I've rebased on the wrong branch with git pull --rebase and tried to fix it the wrong way.

(I also got a bit distracted and didn't pay sufficient attention...)

if you want to just mention a issue, you write no keyword, so just #1234

every issue tracker has its own automation and keywords

what works on gitlab my not work on github or any other issue tracker

ok i looked at it, no this does not Fix the related issue, so please remove the "Fixes"

wurstsalat pushed 1 commits to branch gajim/master fix: ContactNameWidget: Add more conditions for enabling edit mode - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/deecc8e2945ab4648bc6c98c21ff6bf7f5ee02c9

wurstsalat pushed 1 commits to branch gajim/master fix: MUC: Ensure MUCData is initiated with jid string - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/1e09559459c8cc97f519cfe7910d78af3c4402c6

cal0pteryx: what is the Activity Feed about?

I've checked the branch out, but I got no activities and wonder what they should be. :) ✏

mesonium: at the moment it replaces what the account page's notification manager does. In the future it should handle much more, see the linked issue in the MR

I see, thanks

Like in MS teams

https://share.hoerist.com/philipp/yPO4q2PwP9zjcLgw/_WCtmHrSRJ20-_M3URgSug.jpg

Great!

mesonium, previously we had code that keeps the scrolling bar in the conversation view, at the bottom, while loading more messages

and in GTK4 the scrolled window did not issue the right signals anymore for some reason, and it was broken

and now we resort to moving it to the bottom after message load, this causes the flicker

we did not report this to GTK ..

> Seems like Gajim has a new bug hunter, mesonium :) 😂 ↺

> Seems like Gajim has a new bug hunter, mesonium :) 😂 ↺

code is in view.py

basically what we want is, while loading messages to fix the scrollbar or view in one position

> lovetox pushed 1 commits to branch gajim/master > > feat: Use XEP-0172 nickname of contacts not in roster - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/42d32017c70a0edec08c0173b54924d3c561ef7a hmm lovetox nicoco this is the exact opposite of this fix for conversations 9 years ago https://codeberg.org/iNPUTmice/Conversations/commit/73679b97f1264f6c2fe7f06a46f91611d9d96217 basically you can't trust a nick from a random stranger, they can put anything there and trick users with it ↺

Alright, thanks for explaining. Will check it out next week, when I find time again

moparisthebest, we display the jid

I guess it all depends where the real jid is shown and where the nick is

if you check the commit, you see the jid is in the nickname

But in general, i dont see how to solve this, i dont want to mark non-roster contacts in a bad way, seems there are bridges and networks where it is normal to talk to people not in your roster

And i also dont see how it gives a user more trust if he adds someone to his roster

this only gives access to the status and some pubsub nodes the user does not know anything about anyway

i dont see how someone in my roster is more trustworthy as someone not

I mean it's someone you actually added to your roster and not a new random account trying to trick you, that's about the only difference though

> '{properties.nickname} ({remote_jid})' So if I understand this code, this is how it's formatted for display? What if nickname ends with a ton of whitespace? Will that cause JID to be hidden in any UI elements?

yes, labels will be ellipsized at some point

at least in Gajim

well there's your impersonation I guess, just message someone from random@conversations.im with nick set to 'lovetox@gajim.org '

probably should elipse the nick and make sure real JID is always displayed, idk

i didnt say that impersonation is not possible

it was also before this commit possible, even easier

we simply displayed the localpart

and do it still if there is no nickname

i could get down with some small icon somewhere that informs about the fact that you have a conversation with someone not in your roster

thats better than doing any nickname business

and also i expect people who live in a world where no name is unique, that they know its the same for the internet ✏

but then again, you can impersonate anyone without any problem at all in public mucs

That's the tricky part, how to explain to user in a sane way what name they are seeing and how trustworthy or not it may be

see nobody complain about that

usually people notice if something is different

Just as is being able to message gajim users from any JID with (as they see it) `lovetox@gajim.org ...` is maybe not great

suddenly a person messages you, you talk to everyday, but the chat is empty and has no history

suddenly a small icon is there ..

Gajim shows the localpart if there is no nick, so you can register as lovetox@anydomain and Gajim will happily show you someone lovetox messaged you

Yea, maybe you could click on it and it shows "Not on your roster; real jid: $x; nickname they set: $y" etc? idk

i think you just need it to stand out a bit and look weird

then people will notice, and stop because they think, that whole chat does not look like yesterday

Am I crazy or did gajim REMOVE the calls feature?

Yeah, I was just about to ask about that

> Am I crazy or did gajim REMOVE the calls feature? Was it working for you? ↺

See the paragraph about Jingle File Transfer and Audio/Video Calls: https://gajim.org/post/2025-02-28-gajim-2.0.0-released

thanks

There's no way or XEP to crytographically sign a second account, so that others can verfiy that those two belong to same entity, once they trust one them (eg via omemo)?

To counter impersonating

hm, how would it help to cryptographically sign another account?

The closest thing is https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0450.html

wurstsalat pushed 3 commits to branch gajim/master imprv: Simplify URI context menu - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/1fec24714885d0305e9a52a8502557f0df9991ee change: Don't handle file URIs - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/e96ea115bb6d0ea0797affcb00ef99ad626bd4a0 imprv: Remove 'ambiguous-address' URI processing - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/4efec38983dbc42cf223d2cb36d5c06c275c578f

lovetox pushed 1 commits to branch gajim/master fix: MessageInput: Do not crash on message send - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/1f433ab1ebd5bd005a4a6bf5b403feee91f59af7