Gajim - 2024-12-13


  1. opinionplatform.org_3

    Putting a reminder on your calendar to send Y to X at time Z wouldn't work?

  2. Rob

    It's just a workflow that a whole team has adapted to. We are small and dynamic. We DO use calendars, all the time. But that is for appointments. We also have a to do list, and we use that all the time. But, that is for tasks. We keep the tools specific to what they're for. Chat though, is vital to our workflow, and some things need discussion, so the Send Later, allows us to remember to talk about something, and it does it by starting the chat. It's perfect for its use case.

  3. opinionplatform.org_3

    Maybe there should also be a law that employees use employer provided hardware that silences alerts during off hours. Then you could send messages at any time, but they would be effectively ignored until work hours.

  4. Rob

    The employers are doing the right thing at least, and using the Send Later tool to do so. In that way, the employees are free to enjoy their time out of work, without thinking about work, which is excellent. And of course, the employees are allowed to turn off their devices (and they do), but, humans being humans, they don't. The phone buzzes. They think of work. At least in this way, they are not pestered outside of hours.

  5. Rob

    The employers are doing the right thing at least, and using the Send Later tool to do so. In that way, the employees are free to enjoy their time out of work, without thinking about work, which is excellent. And of course, the employees are allowed to turn off their devices (and they do), but, humans being humans, they don't always. The phone buzzes. They think of work. At least in this way, they are not pestered outside of hours.

  6. erik

    Hi. To what extent can plugins be used to change/enhance Gajim behaviour? I'm looking at xep-0142 (workgroup queues); I'm looking at the possibilities to add an extra pane to let agents manage their queue state. One thing that I'm envisioning is that the extra pane/popup/window/whatever receives *all* direct messages from a specific jid (message+iq); do plugins allow that?

  7. lovetox

    Yes for the protocol stuff you can install handlers check for example the PGP plugin. You need to do this as "module". A module gets a instance per account.

  8. lovetox

    And then you need to inject the GUI code into Gajim which is a bit hacky but possible because it's python

  9. lovetox

    You can get a ref to the main window via app.window form gajim.common.app

  10. lovetox

    But you will need knowledge of gtk to make a decent GUI

  11. erik

    Ok. Yes, I was expecting that I'd need to understand gtk to even make the ugliest UI.

  12. erik

    With a message handler installed, I can capture the desired messages to route to a handler for the XEP-0142 messages and from there drive a UI to interact with the user. Sounds like a challenge :-)

  13. erik

    (but doable)

  14. lovetox

    Yes check the plugin repository for starter boilerplate code

  15. lovetox

    And no there is no docs except the code

  16. erik

    I can deal with that. No problem. Thanks!

  17. erik

    Different question: my account seems to revert back to "Visitor" every now and then. Is there anything I should have done to prevent that?

  18. erik

    (I'm lurking 99% of the time)

  19. evm0201

    Hi

  20. 222m5

    > …revert back to "Visitor" every now and then. Is there anything I should have done to prevent that? erik: that happens if you have no affiliation and moderation is enabled

  21. erik

    Thanks.

  22. 222m5

    erik: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0045.html#terms-general

  23. ic_

    I enabled insecure connection to see the effect and on restarting it asks to connect anyway or abort but neither options work and I now cannot access Gajim to reset settings is there a fix

  24. mesonium

    What do you mean by you cannot access it anylonger? Doesn't it start? Any error message?

  25. mesonium

    Insecure connection = account -> connection -> unencrypted?

  26. mesonium

    You mean the modal dialog which asks to connect anywau doesn't vanish and you can't interact with the main window amymore?

  27. ic_

    Solved, mouse click doesn't work but mouse select and hit return does panic over