Gajim - 2024-11-27

How do I jump to first unread message in a MUC or 1:1 chat in Gajim?

I don't think gajim can do that yet, but I think its planned

lovetox, I think discussing 'meson' distracts about the actual issue: using a non-standard way to build stuff. even if downstream could work around this, derivating from the standard way to build and package software (and python has such a thing with pep517) makes it harder for distributions to package your software

the idomatic approach would be to embed custom build logic as part of a pep517 build system, and I believe that should be possible for gajim

flow: no it's not we used 517 before and it is a pain

And again even 517 does not make it possible to package something without reading the readme

That's the base of the problem here. Package maintainer not maintaining a package

Not gajims install process is to complicated

That's laughable we are talking about 4 lines in a script

I give you kudos for your relentless work on gajim, and receiving criticism naturally raises the instinct to reflect that back, but I don't aggree on a technical base with your assesment of the situation

I would argue that the vast majority of Python packages in Gentoo, even complicated ones that involve a lot of dependencies, do not require that a hand roled script is invoked first

Why does it matter what script you invoke

That's not the point, the point is that the design of the build is non-ideal if I have to do that

What?

You need to always read how to build a project

You are saying it's less ideal id the readme say call make.py instead of make?

I am sorry, I will try to make myself clear

I will answer in the evening, have to work

flow: and btw technical point. You can not modify source files with pep517

All python source files are write protected by some backends

Further pep517 provides no possibility to install files on the host system

Pep517 is again a ver narrow use case. Build c extensions

any help on getting the zip files or related documentation for gajim extensions? I want to use XEP 0080 for user location. Setting the plugin repository them in my ~/.local/share/gajim/plugins doesn't change anything I have version 1.9.0. of gajim

harrycovaire12: so, you want to install the plugin and you've downloaded the plugin as a zip?

I can't find the zip anywhere

harrycovaire12: the set location plugin doesn't seem to have been ported for Gajim 1.4 or later if I see that correctly.

I posted the server location a few days ago

> https://ftp.gajim.org/plugins_releases/ right, harrycovaire12

Maybe it's worth to put this link into the wiki. I couldn't find it otherwise myself.

> harrycovaire12: the set location plugin doesn't seem to have been ported for Gajim 1.4 or later if I see that correctly. where did you get this info from? thanks a lot ↺

harrycovaire12: https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim-plugins/-/wikis/home The plugin lives in the 1.3 branch

is there away tohave a chat window open up on incoming message. not just a notification ?

Satish: try the Triggers plugin

i can only get it to show the notification.. cant get it to open the chat window itself

Then you're out of luck I'm afraid

mesonium: thanks, I'll take a look at it. Do you recommend using 1.3.? / is there a particular reason why the plugins are not supported in 1.4.?

1.4.+*

harrycovaire12: there was no demand and afair it was not easy to port

> i can only get it to show the notification.. cant get it to open the chat window itself That reminds me: on Plasma 6.2.3 Wayland, there's an "Open" button in a notification from Gajim, however the main window isn't brought to front. The open dbus message ``` string "app.Sender-JID-Domain.net-open-event({'type': <'incoming-message'>, 'sub_type': <'chat-message'>, 'account': <'Sender-JID-Domain'>, 'jid': <'RecipientJID'>})" string "Open" string "app.Sender-JID-Domain.net-mark-as-read({'account': <'Sender-JID-Domain'>, 'jid': <'Recipient-JID'>, '__types': <{'jid': 'JID'}>})" string "Mark as Read" ``` is received as Gajim logs ``` gtk.control Clear gtk.control Switch to Chat ... ``` Any idea if this is a gtk4 issue or something in Gajim to fix?

Presenting windows is hard :P might be a bug

Is it possible to have a Web Browser Gajim Version like Meebo.

Gajim looks like Earthlink Instant Messenger.

cal0pteryx: `app.window.present_with_timestamp' is called, which should bring it to front but doesnt, weird. Btw _with_timestamp is deprecated since 4.14

mesonium: you're welcome to have a look, if time permits :)

I'll add it to my list ;)

kek: it should be possible to use Gajim in the browser with the Broadway backend of GDK

cal0pteryx: looks like this is this bug https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=442265

So everything fine on gtk/gajim's side

Current master: Ctrl + a does not select text in this input field (worked with GTK3). Ctrl + c does not copy. Ctrl +v does not paste. Known issue?

debacle, you're referring to select/copy/paste actions inside the message input? works fine for me

yes works for me too

> debacle, you're referring to select/copy/paste actions inside the message input? works fine for me Yes. ↺

are you on a lenovo laptop and hit the FN key instaed of control ? :D

> yes works for me too Hm. X11 or W? ↺

X11 here

wayland here

any plugins active?

> are you on a lenovo laptop and hit the FN key instaed of control ? :D Lenovo with Fn/Ctrl correction in BIOS ;-) ↺

sure you have it on :D

X11 (EXWM) here, tried to disable all plugins, but can't disable length notifier. PGP, OX, and triggers are the others.

> sure you have it on :D Just checked with `gedit`: Ctrl + a and ctrl + c do work there. ↺

Ctrl + v, too.

`gedit` seems to use GTK3, though.

Will try 1.9.5 for comparison, again.

debacle: works for me under Plasma Wayland 6.2.3

debacle: you could try to check the gtk4-demo

Good idea

wurstsalat pushed 1 commits to branch gajim/master refactor: Exception dialog: Fix icon size - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/12316f34ccfdd4b379b3d0e578b469725cf41540