Gajim - 2024-11-21

hello! I have an issue with Gajim 1.9.5. I'm not sure if it was present on 1.9.4 or not. If gstreamer-plugins-base is missing, then Gajim never manages to show a window. The traceback I get is https://clbin.com/eZ7Pm .

Lucas: thanks, I will look into it. It should have been fully optional.

Would anybody know why on Ubuntu 24.04 with Gajim 1.9.5 running from flatpak, enabling dark theme does nothing?

It just keeps the white theme

CuriousPanda84: probably a theme set which does not support dark mode

gajim is on GTK right? so would I have to install some packages for a dark mode theme set or?

because I do have normal dark themes for ubuntu in the WM theme settings

Yes, you can try something like adwaita-dark

I set the default gnome theme to adwaita-dark

other applications changed, but even after restart Gajim stays white

CuriousPanda84, Adwaita-dark should be a dark-only theme, whereas Adwaita should support both a light and a dark variant.

The button likely wouldn’t do anything with the former, only with the latter.

Lucas: have you installed gst temporarily now to make Gajim start?

> CuriousPanda84, Adwaita-dark should be a dark-only theme, whereas Adwaita should support both a light and a dark variant. this did it lol, thank you. ↺

I would have expected the dark-only theme to be... dark

Me too actually, no idea why it didn’t for you.

another question, any idea troubleshooting profile pics not showing up for another user? I can see his pfp, he can't see mine. He is also on gajim 1.9.5. The server does show pfp image as uploaded.

Can't tell if its a gajim issue or a server issue, I imagine its Gajim.

And no, it's not on this account I know this account doesn't have a pfp :)

CuriousPanda84: that highly depends on your server's avatar conversion modules

meson, yes, I did that

I can uninstall and try out stuff at will. Trying out patches might take some time tho.

Lucas: I will open a MR now

?OTRv23? user*@xmpp.jp/ has requested an Off-the-Record private conversation <https://otr.cypherpunks.ca/>. However, you do not have a plugin to support that. If you are using Pidgin in Debian or Ubuntu,install the pidgin-otr package. See https://otr.cypherpunks.ca/ for more information. Hi how to resolve in gaijim?

thanks a lot, meson. I'll give the MR a shot.

salmaanahmeedsaad: ask your contact to stop using OTR

> salmaanahmeedsaad: ask your contact to stop using OTR thx ↺

Lucas: #1103

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hi, is it possible to save my xmpp account on gajim on tails? so i dont have to login everytime that i boot my tails os?

that's kinda defeating the purpose of tails but rather a question for Tails, anyway

ik. but every time i re-loging all the messages i recieved using omemo cannot be decypted.

Hi people.

I sent a file to a contact using HTTP file upload using Gajim

it was quite some time ago

I noticed today that the file is still available at that URL

kurion: that's your server's policy

If Archiving preference is set to 'never' for my account and also on the contact's end does it affect how long the files are kept available for? ✏

thanks cal0pteryx for the info

kurion: setting it to "never" comes with many undesirable side effects. Please don't do that

I see

but does it influence the save period of files?

or is it just for plain messages?

It does not influence how long your server provider stores that file, no

The provider's archive may remove that link, but the file may persist

Hello everyone, can anyone help me with the problem? I want to create a python bot for Gajim that will log in under my account and receive new messages sent to me. These messages are then sent to the telegram bot and I can view them on my phone. But here's the problem, after I pass xmpp to the authorization request, the error "Failed to connect" appears (the library I use is slixmpp). Maybe I'm not sending all the data to the server? p.s. If I check the connection with the server via cmd, the packets are successfully transmitted

Join the slixmpp support chat and ask them

Why do you think that is related to gajim

Ok, thanks. After all, Gajim is also written in python, maybe the same errors have already occurred during development...

pechka: different xmpp libraries

pechka, why don’t you just use an XMPP client directly on your phone?

> pechka, why don’t you just use an XMPP client directly on your phone? Because the xmpp app is not free on Google Play ↺

pechka: it's free on fdroid

what? plenty of free xmpp clients on both GPlay and F-Droid

much freer than telegram in both senses lol

> pechka: it's free on fdroid Really? I saw only one free application, it seemed to be called yaxim... But it is old, so it is not supported by my phone( ↺

https://conversations.im is the most popular one

Yes really, they are all free on f-droid.org

https://joinjabber.org/docs/apps/android/

Kris: is it your website?

I am a contributor to it, yes.

👌

pechka, even in Google Play, you have a bunch of Conversations forks for free, such as Snikket.

>> Though old gtk4 version not tested with that > well, it looks like I'll wait till I update debian to next stable before I can test gajim-gtk4 :) >> Gajim needs gtk4 >= 4.14.0 (found 4.8.3) to run. Quitting... You could test and develop it with the help of some container, e.g. with Distrobox @ nicoco ✏

Simply build the flatpak

True, so many possibilities :)

meson, I got around to test it. First of all, for context, I'm running into this by trying out an 1.9.5 update in OpenBSD. As such, I'm interested in 1.9.5 working, so I did some modifications to your patch (mostly changing `"` to `'`, but the widget required a bit more of work). https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/blob/master/gajim/gtk/voice_message_recorder.py?ref_type=heads#L259 seems to need the same treatment as I used in my patch. You can check my diff at https://clbin.com/2Tbn3 .

I'm currently running Gajim without any gstreamer installed in my machine after that patch

Lucas: " and ' are treated the same in Python, it's just a matter of style

About the other property, thanks, have overlooked it ✏

I mean, it seems that the change from `'` to `"` ocurred in the codebase after 1.9.5. That's why I had to adjust the patch.

Yeah, sorry

> >> Though old gtk4 version not tested with that > > well, it looks like I'll wait till I update debian to next stable before I can test gajim-gtk4 :) > >> Gajim needs gtk4 >= 4.14.0 (found 4.8.3) to run. Quitting... > You could test and develop it with the help of some container, e.g. with Distrobox @ nicoco thanks for the suggestion, I had a go at distrobox which looked interesting. unfortunately I can't run gajim because of an obscure: ``` (launch.py:239105): GStreamer-CRITICAL **: 16:10:13.832: gst_element_factory_make_valist: assertion 'gst_is_initialized ()' failed [...] File "/home/nicoco/src/perso/xmpp/gajim/gajim/gtk/voice_message_recorder.py", line 77, in __init__ self._pipeline = Gst.Pipeline.new("pipeline") ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ TypeError: constructor returned NULL ``` maybe I'll look into the flatpak thing for my next try ;) ✏ ↺

before that I had to manually apply https://github.com/g7/distrobox/commit/fe73a87596cd6350d7ef24eb5e67da3361e65c9f because it didn't reach debian stable yet 🤣

nicoco: because gstreamer isn't installed, see the chat history directly above :)

libgstreamer1.0-0 is installed though

With plugins-base?

> gstreamer1.0-plugins-base/unstable,now 1.24.9-1 amd64 [installed,automatic] indeed! I should try another distro than debian sid I guess

I tried it with Archlinux

wurstsalat pushed 4 commits to branch gajim/master revert: Revert "change: Windows: Disable file system virtualization for MS Store app" - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/56bebd9059639a169114871822d3bf9653a4a92f refactor: Exception: Remove Windows debugging workaround - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/d6d2d070db35a720e8fd03b0aa2b3261e95d4168 refactor: AppPage: Sort widgets correctly in update notification rows - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/3ae77c916be7e42c422a770028c23f33532ca362 refactor: FileTransferRow: Disable expanding horizontally - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/2790cbf265d2de122d9125c8544aee5eee9a4c61

Allo, thanks you for the work on Gajim. Is possible to change order of account display on left UI?

If you disable an account and re-enable it (from Accounts -> Manage Accounts...) it'll be on the bottom of the list

Yes sir I am hopeful to avoid this but maybe the only way? I will lose this local history which not save on XMPP server yes?

> I will lose this local history which not save on XMPP server yes? No

Disabling an account and re-enabling it doesn't result in chat history deletion

Though you may need to reopen the chats manually via the + button -> start chat, to browse their history

Oh yes I see your approach, just disabling not delete. I will try this thank you @lissine :)

Probably not persist well for restarting?

> Probably not persist well for restarting? what do you mean? ↺

When Gajim restart maybe the order change to show by seq connnecting

I'm not sure

But I guess it stays the same, as I didn't notice the order changing between Gajim restarts

I will try it. thank you again lissine

To the Gajim maintainers: this is a minor thing, but is it on purpose that when you disable an account and re-enable it, only the group chats will appear in the chats list? (i.e. 1-to-1 chats will need to be opened manually, or the contact needs to send a message, for them to appear in the chats list)

lissine, it's not "on purpose" but "not accounted for" ;) I've done a MR a while ago to store these settings: https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/merge_requests/913

and up until the GTK4 port it worked flawlessly :) I'll rebase it when we're starting to work on new features again

wurstsalat pushed 1 commits to branch gajim/master refactor: Flatpak: Remove GTK4 TODOs - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/bc3b02baa1b3253bc247f68209afc96783cc5fdb