Gajim - 2024-11-20

Supported XEPs listed here: https://xmpp.org/software/gajim/

DOesn't look like 0396 is on that list

I have a not-Gajim question - seems every time I reboot my phone (Pixel), I have to reset the phone app to use my cheogram account for calling.ANyone else run into this?

Where can i teste the gtk4 branch

It disappeared in gitlab😮

danielstein, it was merged into the master branch

TroytheGardener: it is probably best to ask that in xmpp:discuss@conference.soprani.ca?join

> danielstein, it was merged into the master branch Wait, really?

Cool. Will do. Thx

CuriousPanda84: to avoid confusion: Gajim supports omemo encrypted file transfer via http upload, but not via jingle

So that would be the Upload file option, correct? Where you upload the file to the host homeserver, where it would live encrypted only able to be decrypted by the user it was uploaded for, correct?

But the "Send direct" would be p2p jingle, and thus just HTTPS encrypted? ✏

Yes

kk, thank you for the clarification :)

CuriousPanda84: no

Send direct is never encrypted

not even with HTTPS/TLS? ✏

No

Wow, I would have assumed TLS was used

Depends on the method in use? IBB?

I forward a question for which i perhaps missed the answer (sorry if i missed it) > I noticed in gajim 1.7.3 that some accounts with which I just exchanged are however displayed at the end of my workspace. Do you know how to fix this? > I don't think so, here is what I got > https://xmpp.chapril.org/upload/cfee2913ce572d9ebb0a968a72b035ab87396582/fMFcXQAdiCrJq0ZYB2P7/timestamp_bug.png > timestamps are from 2021 but I received messages from today (and the accounts are displayed at the end of my workspace)

Update to the latest version if you can

Looks like a bug

But we never tested with chats that did not receive message for 3 years

But yeah this could be fixed in the latest version

lovetox: I precise that i received message from those accounts a few minutes ago, which is why there is a bug : the timestamp displays 2021 instead of a few min before

Is Debian nightly built from gajim/master

Yes

cal0pteryx, what do you think about adding a small box shadow for a slight 3d effect and slightly less rounded corners:

https://share.conversations.im/meeson_/nDneQVH9E1hAiQUQ/Boxshadow_Image_Preview.jpg

meson: I think an image creates enough attention to the viewer, so it does not need to be elevated further by a shadow

cal0pteryx, the intention wasn't to enhance the attention but to create a pleasent visual effect. Was just a suggestion. About the slightly less rounded corners and the theme aware coloring of the overlay, you may check it out yourself anyway: https://dev.gajim.org/mesonium/gajim/-/commit/bbcc397557c3524c13f12b4047e44ec7d5175cdb The black colored overlay looks a bit off when using a light theme. Looking forward to your feedback. :)

Looks fancy

I think we definitely need a light border around an image, otherwise it could blend with the background. See here the upper right corner for instance:

https://share.conversations.im/meeson_/nRVMGXdbHg3dmKu7/Screenshot_20241120_162944.png

weird, on my phone with Conversations it's not an issue. :P ✏

Please do not round the corners. That cuts a part of the image

jstein: that has been discussed yesterday already

Let's not bike-shed this to death. A small border is needed to distinguish it from the background, that is correct.

No, we do not need more options

we need an option :D /s ✏

oh sorry, there is a border already. Since I've had to connect my monitor with an HDMI cable temporarily instead by DP, apparently contrast and colors are odd and I didn't see that.

A sufficiently visible border should be there, yes :D

I've notived in comparison with Dino: our previews are now blurry :)

I will check what they do differently:

https://share.conversations.im/meeson_/opYKU9V4Dr1baJTF/Screenshot_20241120_170901.png

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XMPP is already an outdated communication protocol, it feels worse than Matrix, it doesn't stop me from brushing the screen, the Linux operating syste https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/f3b34e36-cb1c-495f-ac33-0bc533e82b40

XMPP is already an outdated communication protocol, it feels worse than Matrix, it doesn't stop me from brushing the screen, the Linux operating syste https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/dab2773c-f205-463f-88eb-49fff994a9ee

XMPP is already an outdated communication protocol, it feels worse than Matrix, it doesn't stop me from brushing the screen, the Linux operating syste https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/29a53faa-a2ac-40ba-82d3-170298d33fb8

XMPP is already an outdated communication protocol, it feels worse than Matrix, it doesn't stop me from brushing the screen, the Linux operating syste https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/b0d10a89-f419-43b6-87ad-c0d64803247a

XMPP is already an outdated communication protocol, it feels worse than Matrix, it doesn't stop me from brushing the screen, the Linux operating syste https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/650244dd-4f7c-4943-9e4f-7f4af301284e

XMPP is already an outdated communication protocol, it feels worse than Matrix, it doesn't stop me from brushing the screen, the Linux operating syste https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/eef4a4e1-b1f8-4d4c-81a6-c817c492b38e

XMPP is already an outdated communication protocol, it feels worse than Matrix, it doesn't stop me from brushing the screen, the Linux operating syste https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/94af891c-e9e0-407c-beac-90dc7a0ef1d6

XMPP is already an outdated communication protocol, it feels worse than Matrix, it doesn't stop me from brushing the screen, the Linux operating syste https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/37441648-8e18-4e78-a5e5-899134139974

XMPP is already an outdated communication protocol, it feels worse than Matrix, it doesn't stop me from brushing the screen, the Linux operating syste https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/cf328482-68df-4bfd-afe6-f50d8ce6b64a

XMPP is already an outdated communication protocol, it feels worse than Matrix, it doesn't stop me from brushing the screen, the Linux operating syste https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/af6b0bb1-1596-4fd6-94a4-e5f2f0552ea3

XMPP is already an outdated communication protocol, it feels worse than Matrix, it doesn't stop me from brushing the screen, the Linux operating syste https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/61c50a47-185c-4da6-817b-f0e92ee54fe7

lovetox, cal0pteryx:

XMPP is already an outdated communication protocol, it feels worse than Matrix, it doesn't stop me from brushing the screen, the Linux operating syste https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/9ee38f8d-09a4-4ab8-a635-eb95654b2c08

XMPP is already an outdated communication protocol, it feels worse than Matrix, it doesn't stop me from brushing the screen, the Linux operating syste https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/fb474a9a-1f6c-4f56-9c9e-47fa99fcd49a

XMPP is already an outdated communication protocol, it feels worse than Matrix, it doesn't stop me from brushing the screen, the Linux operating syste https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/2569b0a2-02e7-41cc-9f12-26d2ae1f326e

XMPP is already an outdated communication protocol, it feels worse than Matrix, it doesn't stop me from brushing the screen, the Linux operating syste https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/6c0a48c6-07c4-4a5c-87ec-862217b6dd8e

XMPP is already an outdated communication protocol, it feels worse than Matrix, it doesn't stop me from brushing the screen, the Linux operating syste https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/bedb40f5-159c-4b1a-b9c3-22bc10512382

XMPP is already an outdated communication protocol, it feels worse than Matrix, it doesn't stop me from brushing the screen, the Linux operating syste https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/1756641d-dde5-48ba-a05d-7b1f7eebcc66

XMPP is already an outdated communication protocol, it feels worse than Matrix, it doesn't stop me from brushing the screen, the Linux operating syste https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/7b846a57-8916-48d0-882f-c73ed18ca3f2

XMPP is already an outdated communication protocol, it feels worse than Matrix, it doesn't stop me from brushing the screen, the Linux operating syste https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/914d1c53-542d-4fa2-beb3-88340f29a832

XMPP is already an outdated communication protocol, it feels worse than Matrix, it doesn't stop me from brushing the screen, the Linux operating syste https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/9a4270ec-66f8-4b5d-a0bb-0a91435c82d8

lovetox:

XMPP is already an outdated communication protocol, it feels worse than Matrix, it doesn't stop me from brushing the screen, the Linux operating syste https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/0a730a9c-715e-4be3-9dc0-a9410dda8c8c

XMPP is already an outdated communication protocol, it feels worse than Matrix, it doesn't stop me from brushing the screen, the Linux operating syste https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/8fcd91cb-9e0a-4d10-8ddc-f15af9900540

XMPP is already an outdated communication protocol, it feels worse than Matrix, it doesn't stop me from brushing the screen, the Linux operating syste https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/c37441e6-cb62-41c0-8ee2-601f487cf5c4

XMPP is already an outdated communication protocol, it feels worse than Matrix, it doesn't stop me from brushing the screen, the Linux operating syste https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/605fd880-52b1-4cfa-9681-6a90e3b0a0d3

XMPP is already an outdated communication protocol, it feels worse than Matrix, it doesn't stop me from brushing the screen, the Linux operating syste https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/bd6a79a1-756c-4536-a0dd-146355deb0e2

XMPP is already an outdated communication protocol, it feels worse than Matrix, it doesn't stop me from brushing the screen, the Linux operating syste https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/050b0319-bcd5-4286-82ff-8f56bf11c939

lovetox, cal0pteryx:

XMPP is already an outdated communication protocol, it feels worse than Matrix, it doesn't stop me from brushing the screen, the Linux operating syste https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/57eb5531-fe08-46bb-b4c7-1b0c79b463c6

XMPP is already an outdated communication protocol, it feels worse than Matrix, it doesn't stop me from brushing the screen, the Linux operating syste https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/f76bdb9c-d40d-4b3a-a759-57360859253f

XMPP is already an outdated communication protocol, it feels worse than Matrix, it doesn't stop me from brushing the screen, the Linux operating syste https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/de45ba85-d064-4b08-9a57-8715065dbe2f

XMPP is already an outdated communication protocol, it feels worse than Matrix, it doesn't stop me from brushing the screen, the Linux operating syste https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/5256ae86-088f-4672-a39e-cc8622a2d5e2

XMPP is already an outdated communication protocol, it feels worse than Matrix, it doesn't stop me from brushing the screen, the Linux operating syste https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/d107da00-a1c9-4f41-8b42-5a98de6b7f73

XMPP is already an outdated communication protocol, it feels worse than Matrix, it doesn't stop me from brushing the screen, the Linux operating syste https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/c209e3d5-3790-4a65-af7c-834ea90c3f5c

XMPP is already an outdated communication protocol, it feels worse than Matrix, it doesn't stop me from brushing the screen, the Linux operating syste https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/759fbbf6-465d-4e8f-b785-ce5059174a30

XMPP is already an outdated communication protocol, it feels worse than Matrix, it doesn't stop me from brushing the screen, the Linux operating syste https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/793d20d8-2fc0-426d-8ccf-16995fac6961

XMPP is already an outdated communication protocol, it feels worse than Matrix, it doesn't stop me from brushing the screen, the Linux operating syste https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/cae02143-d297-470d-a7c0-2e481f2c4d49

XMPP is already an outdated communication protocol, it feels worse than Matrix, it doesn't stop me from brushing the screen, the Linux operating syste https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/bb92efea-81ce-4b69-857b-96f32186006d

XMPP is already an outdated communication protocol, it feels worse than Matrix, it doesn't stop me from brushing the screen, the Linux operating syste https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/dff51540-aa37-4bca-add8-1d0b5c6d7274

XMPP is already an outdated communication protocol, it feels worse than Matrix, it doesn't stop me from brushing the screen, the Linux operating syste https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/ff7e8956-01a3-4a88-ae62-2f152ac7f05b

XMPP is already an outdated communication protocol, it feels worse than Matrix, it doesn't stop me from brushing the screen, the Linux operating syste https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/913e8eec-2e7c-4ab4-bbdc-b5b040e91b5c

XMPP is already an outdated communication protocol, it feels worse than Matrix, it doesn't stop me from brushing the screen, the Linux operating syste https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/4c92984c-8e12-424c-9653-afd69e20edd9

XMPP is already an outdated communication protocol, it feels worse than Matrix, it doesn't stop me from brushing the screen, the Linux operating syste https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/e9ecb2a6-6066-4597-b7bc-0af2bf43af0c

XMPP is already an outdated communication protocol, it feels worse than Matrix, it doesn't stop me from brushing the screen, the Linux operating syste https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/baa76d94-24ef-45bd-a84a-51a11d5f4e16

XMPP is already an outdated communication protocol, it feels worse than Matrix, it doesn't stop me from brushing the screen, the Linux operating syste https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/fae2eda4-8b5d-41fe-b1ed-8b686be5b538

XMPP is already an outdated communication protocol, it feels worse than Matrix, it doesn't stop me from brushing the screen, the Linux operating syste https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/fa285a41-b013-40b6-9d60-090c62e42936

XMPP is already an outdated communication protocol, it feels worse than Matrix, it doesn't stop me from brushing the screen, the Linux operating syste https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/f04c0ae6-9387-46c4-8800-f47140e47193

XMPP is already an outdated communication protocol, it feels worse than Matrix, it doesn't stop me from brushing the screen, the Linux operating syste https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/b13613e1-2bc4-43e2-b9b5-94d16b8a94ca

XMPP is already an outdated communication protocol, it feels worse than Matrix, it doesn't stop me from brushing the screen, the Linux operating syste https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/12ef5fae-3bbf-4a01-b5fd-a83df76315d8

XMPP is already an outdated communication protocol, it feels worse than Matrix, it doesn't stop me from brushing the screen, the Linux operating syste https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/c5476c70-3a47-4268-b560-3987237f44bc

XMPP is already an outdated communication protocol, it feels worse than Matrix, it doesn't stop me from brushing the screen, the Linux operating syste https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/85adf511-e347-4011-a6d3-d612bcab1bbc

XMPP is already an outdated communication protocol, it feels worse than Matrix, it doesn't stop me from brushing the screen, the Linux operating syste https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/78416c7d-4476-4c49-8635-64aaa848931e

XMPP is already an outdated communication protocol, it feels worse than Matrix, it doesn't stop me from brushing the screen, the Linux operating syste https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/d57b002e-20bf-429e-99d9-63edde11f2b0

XMPP is already an outdated communication protocol, it feels worse than Matrix, it doesn't stop me from brushing the screen, the Linux operating syste https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/03139c20-1598-4df3-ba8c-bd08ebc4f656

XMPP is already an outdated communication protocol, it feels worse than Matrix, it doesn't stop me from brushing the screen, the Linux operating syste https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/6af44bfb-1493-4ea4-a691-c85433ed55c9

XMPP is already an outdated communication protocol, it feels worse than Matrix, it doesn't stop me from brushing the screen, the Linux operating syste https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/67609444-1511-48bb-a066-2529448954a5

XMPP is already an outdated communication protocol, it feels worse than Matrix, it doesn't stop me from brushing the screen, the Linux operating syste https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/5448f548-1690-492f-9485-5680aa3d1e6f

XMPP is already an outdated communication protocol, it feels worse than Matrix, it doesn't stop me from brushing the screen, the Linux operating syste https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/764fa5a3-d5d6-4bc2-b06c-61dbf8c3a457

XMPP is already an outdated communication protocol, it feels worse than Matrix, it doesn't stop me from brushing the screen, the Linux operating syste https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/cce9b0ca-61a9-4679-ae67-eb9f042efe58

XMPP is already an outdated communication protocol, it feels worse than Matrix, it doesn't stop me from brushing the screen, the Linux operating syste https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/f1e6a354-27f5-4342-a7ad-74b6c81b4431

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cal0pteryx: I've set `size *= 2` in `_create_thumbnail_with_pil` and let the thumbnails re-create: now they look as sharp as in Dino. ofc course the thumbnail size is now 4x bigger, but visually it's a huge difference, especially on a hidpi screen.

that can't be the solution though

Did gajim actually remove the ability to MUC-PM?

No

It's banned in many rooms nowadays

Double click contact in roster

thanks

I tried that but too slowly and it only completed the nickname twice

nvm, it’s converse that is doing a horrible job at pms

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> that can't be the solution though but it would be nice to find an acceptable solution. :) ↺

it could be the solution

we can create the thumbnail in 2 sizes

normal and @2

or wie create it x2, and resize on demand

I'm wondering if we need to create thumbnails at all when using a Gtk.Picture

or we use GtkPicture instead of GtkImage, GtkPicture resizes a loaded image automatically

Resource-wise

yes, cal0pteryx, because you dont want to load 10 images a 10 MB

for gtk picture to resize something it needs to fully load the image into memory, then resize

> or we use GtkPicture instead of GtkImage, GtkPicture resizes a loaded image automatically I think that's how Dino does it. ↺

if we can reduce this to a few kb per image, this is definitly much faster

and of course loading bigger images takes more time from harddrive

So the problem arises from scale factors different from 1?

i guess so, we store a image at say 400 px h/w

then you load that on a scale 2 display, which means for the same effect you would need a 800px file

makes sense, I indeed use a 2x scaling

> or we use GtkPicture instead of GtkImage, GtkPicture resizes a loaded image automatically this has also the advantage that you could later easily create a responsive design. I've checked: Dino does exactly this. ↺

But at what costs. It surely makes a difference to load a 500kB image thumbnail compared to a 5MB image? Or maybe that's not so bad?

it makes not much sense to load big pictures if we never show them in that resolution

thumbnails are sure the better solution

but we need to store it at the max size we want to provide theoretically

Which can be 300%

400*3

wurstsalat pushed 1 commits to branch gajim/master imprv: MessageRowActions: Don't show actions if message selection is active - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/03415b1dee4a32523649ac0773eb48b98991d184