Gajim - 2024-11-04

Hi there I just migrated from Ubuntu 23.04 to Arch. Keeping my home dir intact Just ré-installed Gajim through pacman and I have 2 main issues : - Gajim seem to not have reused my omemo keys and I'm confused of whether it's properly connected - the left menu doesn't appear and if I click on the arrow '<' at the bottom left of the app, there's a crash report with a teace back of pyjhon `MainWindow object has no attribute '_chat_page'` Gajim : 1.9.5 I can't remember if I was on a snap version or not on Ubuntu 23.04 I have backup of my home system so I might be able to figure it out with pointers Hope I'm in the right place to ask those type of questions Thanks for reading

The Wild, I don't think there exists any Snap version of Gajim? How have you migrated your data exactly?

The Wild: how did you install Gajim

> The Wild, I don't think there exists any Snap version of Gajim? How have you migrated your data exactly? There is on Ubuntu ↺

> The Wild: how did you install Gajim Via Pacman `pacman -Su gajim` ↺

The Wild: are the versions on snap and arch the same

I would say no I'm still looking around to find the version I'm pretty I was on 1.9.3 or 1.9.4 Not sure I had the 1.9.5 before migration

I'm so sorry I got confused: I think I had installed it using flatpak !

And a friend of mine indicates me that as of August 1st 2024, I was in 1.9.3 I probably didn't upgrade so I consider safe to assume that was the version I was in On first launched of the 1.9.5 on Arch Linux, Gajim showed a window indicating that the database had been migrated successfully

The Wild: Flatpak is a different directory. Please make sure to copy the correct one https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/wikis/help/Backup

Oh That would explain a lot The `.local/share/gajim` dir I have must be from an older version of Gajim installed through Ubuntu I'm gonna do that and clear things a bit

Ok Did that I still have errors at launch. With a long traceback from python ending up with : `Gst is not defined` Gajim doesn't appear in any tray although it's configured to minimise on close In the OMEMO tab of my account, a line indicates "account isn't connected"

The Wild: please install necessary dependencies. It looks like gsteamer is missing for example

You can find all dependencies in gajim's readme. Although the package you're using should sort that out. Or maybe it's just better to use flatpak after all?

I'll try to identify the issue with the package I don't want to use flatpak ever if I can Same goes for snap and any other things like this

gststreamer is marked as an optional package in Arch Linux Should the app be able to function without it ?

Ok, fixed it The line that fixed it : `sudo pacman -Su --asdeps emoji-font farstream gsound gst-plugin-gtk gst-plugins-base gst-plugins-ugly gst-libav gstreamer` I added additional dependencies here. But maybe something shoud change on the Arch front ?

> I'll try to identify the issue with the package > > I don't want to use flatpak ever if I can > Same goes for snap and any other things like this Same here 😀️ While the package names differ slightly from one distribution to the other, you can also check, what we do at Debian: https://packages.debian.org/source/unstable/gajim has the source/build dependencies https://packages.debian.org/sid/gajim shows the binary/install dependencies ↺

Well, Thinking about it, it's probably that I had videos and calls enabled on Gajim flatpak in Ubuntu, and the config indicated that. Then the version on Arch was trying to load that based on the config As of now, I consider the problem solved Thanks for the help

The Wild, what does “I had videos and calls enabled” mean exactly?

I’m one of the maintainers of the gajim-git package so if some dependency became mandatory for some reason I’m interested to figure out why.

At least on Arch, videos and calls aren't available by default in Gajim I think I had activated it through flatpak But it's a guess. Haven't checked the config nor how it used to work on Ubuntu I installed `gajim` and not `gajim-git` My conclusion was oriented toward: i had a configuration issue switching from flatpak on Ubuntu to Gajim pacman package without optional dependencies I opened to test a few thing to clarify, I just don't know what i could do to investigate further

Gstreamer should be an optional dependency

meson, in audio_preview.py there are still two TODO comments for gtk4, could you take a look?

Voice messages require gstreamer though

Also we use gstpbutils

lovetox: I will

But Gst import is optional, we dont fail on Gajim start if Gst is not there

also in the audio preview Gst ist optional

The Wild, do you have the exact traceback?

Switching from one package to another shouldn’t cause any such issue.

Also calls are still unsupported.

I have one of them yes I can provide it a bit later

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Hello. What would I need to port a plugin from another client to Gajim?

Specifically, from a C++/Qt client to any Gajim version.

bh0d, basically rewriting it; what kind of plugin is that?

Link Mauve: the client switcher plugin from Psi+.

https://github.com/psi-im/plugins https://github.com/psi-plus/psi-plus-snapshots/plugins Should be under these, I'm having trouble with github at the moment.

bh0d, Gajim is written in Python (not C++), using GTK (not Qt), and has totally different internals than Psi.

Yes.

Very little could actually be ported, mostly just the logic.

I do assume it would have to be rewritten entirely.

You can approach it as writing a new plugin yes.

bh0d, what does a client swichter plugin do

lovetox: it allows you to switch/spoof the client that is displayed. Meaning could use Gajim and someone else would see you using Profanity.

It also, at least in Psi+ allows you to set the 'iq request' or whichever one denies a timezone from displaying. You can also set all options to 'not implemented' or 'ignore' which will publish all info as 'unknown' and ignore request entirely (but not publish), respectively.

Gajim already has deny idle time, timezone, os/client info. So that's not something that needs to be ported.

Gajim also already allows changing the resource header, but that's not something in the plugin anyway. It can work with a plugin if someone can 'port' the idea into a plugin.

it would be a pretty trivial plugin

https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim-plugins

there is not much documentation, but some example plugins

How so?

as you said the only thing you are look for is changing the disco info from Gajim to some other string

this is done in the caps module, and you can access this from a plugin, call set_caps() with whatever info you want

even for something like a config GUI there are simple examples in the plugin repo

you basically need just a dropdown with strings

I think the plugin uses iris caps calculation.

So there's a lot of caps node, caps version and so forth stanzas.

If github can let me access again I can double check...

in gajim this is all done by the xmpp lib

you just call with the data you want to set

https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/blob/master/gajim/common/modules/caps.py?ref_type=heads#L181

but why is is important that someone doesnt know that you are on Gajim?

For the same reasons disabling os/client, idle time, timezone from showing in Gajim is possible.

Anyway, thanks for the pointers, I will look into this.

Remember that non-default client behavior makes you more unique

Hi, I heard rumors that gajim is supposed to respond to the light/dark mode button, I'm on Debian testing with Gajim 1.9.5. Is gajim suppose to change it's colors on the button press, or does it only check on startup?

why are you asking this? do you intend to very often switch between those modes?

you can find light/dark mode settings in Gajim -> Preferences

Due to the lighting from my windows it's helpful to change it to light mode during the (very bright) daytime

we get a signal from dbus org.freedesktop.portal.Settings

that we act on, but you probably need to install something that offers this interface

i remember seeing something about this on archwiki give me a second

https://archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/darkman/

darkman

"Framework for dark-mode and light-mode transitions on Linux desktop" that should be what youre looking for, right?

using it, you can also automate it by time 👍

Huh. There's a Dark Theme option on the Style tab of settings, and when I change it the subject box changes colors, but otherwise nothing else changes

I saw the Gajim account on mastodon talking about Gtk4, and depending on the widgets chosen you can have the whole application change coloring depending on the setting

As I recall light/dark changes subject box and nick colors