Gajim - 2024-10-27

meson, any news on the voice message visualization? :) I came accross some sections where I needed to modify code there (already pushed), and I'd like to integrate your changes

it does not have to be perfect

cal0pteryx: I push in 1h, am busy rigjt now

ah thanks, great :)

how do i block people on gajim?

i saw that it supports XEP-191

but i don't see anything about it on the GUI ✏

for clarification my gajim install is the spanish one

oh wait nvm i'm dumb

cal0pteryx, done

I'm unfamiliar with the cache code here: https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/merge_requests/960/diffs . If I pull and build this branch, will it change my gajim data such that I won't be able to revert?

aereaux: cache will be rebuilt, so no problem

cal0pteryx: I've encountered a bug when seeking, but I will fix this later, if that's okay

meson, absolutely! thanks a lot

and there's still the segfault race condition bug somewhere in gtk4 when updating the graph while seeking: I will try to write minimal reproducing code, when I find the time, and report it upstream ✏

I hope this one gets more attention than the pango issue ...

Is that pango issue still present in gtk4?

Pango has nothing to do with gtk or?

Both are developed by gnome?

lovetox, I can no longer reproduce the crash fwiw with the code posted @ https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/pango/-/issues/798

seems to be fixed? :) ✏

The two main GTK devs have hardly anything to do with GNOME fwiw.

They are both employed by Red Hat.

I see, didn't know.

cal0pteryx, I see I should have labeled the commit `refactor` and not `cfix`. :>

meson, that's fine, since there will be rebases anyway

Btw I usually idle at xmpp:%23gtk%25irc.libera.chat@irc.jabberfr.org?join to know what they are working on at the moment.

Link Mauve, `calcium.libera.chat: #gtk: Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be logged into your NickServ account`

Yes, you have to register an account and login for that.

cal0pteryx, we've asked the gtk devs about CSS colors for custom GTK4 widgets because of the snapshot routine: Gtk widgets are designed to only have a single color. If one wants to use more, one has to use _libadwaita_ or to _poke at the relevant settings manually_. That means changing the state flags is indeed a bit hacky. We should think about changing that at some point I'd say.

meson, yes, changing state flags is indeed hacky. we did that for the emoji shortcode completion as well, but now it's redesigned. a thing to consider for after the port ;)

for the port we're not using `adw` yet, but I'd really like to move to that after the port

there's a quiet nice pro/con for adw by one of the xournalpp main devs: https://github.com/xournalpp/xournalpp/discussions/5301#discussioncomment-7412697

because I already see complains incoming - reasoned or not :D

sure there will be :) change always comes with complaints

libadwaita ships some custom theme? ✏

lovetox, yes, its widgets are different from a pure GTK application as well.

in what way? A custom widget is by definition different than in GTK otherwise it would not be a custom widget

Indeed.

But yeah, it also uses different CSS I think.

i have no problem with things looking in a certain way, i think users should not care how things look as long as it does the job

but GTK is already not a very good cross platform framework

i fear using a lib that is defined as "only for gnome apps"

They’re trying to improve that currently.

the devs have even less motivation to fix anything regarding other systems

well, Gajim (or GTK apps in general) already look alien on Windows for example

but the question would be, can there really be problems in libadwaita that only affects Windows

or would this anyway a GTK problem

im also dont understand can you mix adw and normal gtk stuff?

Yes you can.

Even libadwaita also uses normal gtk widgets in its widgets. ✏

> They’re trying to improve that currently. Do you have some sources for that?

meson, ah, I was replying to “20:31:53 lovetox> but GTK is already not a very good cross platform framework”.

I don’t know enough about libadwaita, and I don’t follow their development.