Gajim - 2024-10-03

xmpp

Fuwupe: piegon mail

i have not tried piegon mail

hi all, is it possible to get plugins on flatpak? I listed them with `flatpak search gajim.plugin` but only showed PGP-related plugins

These are the only plugins currently provided for flatpak. What plugin do you need?

abbreviation expander

Depending on the number of people interested in a plugin, more could be provided via flathub.

Till then you could try to build it locally

oh alright, may it introduce problems with future updates of gajim?

I think the only problem could be that the plugin is not loaded after some updates of gajim, because of API or runtime changes. But gajim itself should always start.

I see I see, thanks

https://upload.gajim.org:5281/upload/OlXxSNrT9z9I34rvECz7qms_/3bef063f-d8dc-492e-b4fe-9bb81ba98825.png

dude, what is this server

sigh

I'm not sure if the above image works for you guys but it shows something that I've experienced a few times recently where the chat banner has no avatar but the chat does have an avatar in the chat list

I'm saying it again: gajim.org should not be a public provider

100% agree, I hope I can't login soon, lol

> I'm saying it again: gajim.org should not be a public provider I think this needs to be directed to asterix with an unambiguous acknowledgement ↺

Hi, I was asking about that a few back, but couldn't get around investigating it further. in my flatpak version I can't save media or upload media. And trying to do so 2 or 3 times crashes gajim without any kind of message. Suggestions on what to do?

on a side note, I can't download media in a zoom chat either - might be due to flatseal? ?? Don't know

I don't think I had to change any permissions for gajim flatpak. Did you change default settings? Have you tested this with more than one xmpp account on different servers?

It's no more possible to register an account on gajim.org xmpp server

I'm not aware that I changed something. Can't recall if I installed gajim first and than flatseal or vice versa. No, only got this account. I installed gajim on another laptop, with the same issues.

julian: I'd try making an account with a known-good server and see if it works

but it would be nice if you could get debug logs for the crash

Suggestions? And how would that solve the zoom issue.

oh, well, I suppose you might have flatpak/OS issues, so no idea what's going on

> but it would be nice if you could get debug logs for the crash I tried activating the toggle last time. Not sure if it works. And where should I post the log?

there could be personal stuff in the log so use your own disgression. You could send it in a pm to lovetox, I think

🤔 thinking of booting a live distro and install gajim there. If it works there it must be something I changed

> You could send it in a pm to lovetox, I think 👍

the toggle for debug log is ON, but clicking the folder icon does nothing. Where can I find it?

should be ~/.var/app/org.gajim.Gajim/data/gajim/debug

julian: that's almost certainly flatseal

Gajim simply has no permission as it seems

lovetox: suggestions how to check that? As I said I'm not aware I changed a setting. For zoom I think I toggled "use hardware acceleration" as scrolling the chat there causes tearing. Yesterday I saw that it still does, so I give up with BS zoom (damn I'm forced to use it)

isn't gajim crashing always worth looking into?

Yes if someone uses the application like it is dustributed

If someone adds external applications to remove capabilities of the application then I don't see that as a support case

It's easy to test

I might try

Remove Gajim from flatseal see if the problem still exists

but the thing is, flatseal shows no filesystem permissions given except the gnupg directories

somehow it's able to access everything. I don't really know how flatpak perms work but that makes it seem like it does nothing

> Remove Gajim from flatseal see if the problem still exists how do I do that? I don't see a button "remove / delete or such" just a reset ↺

which is greyed out, as I just realized

LOL, opening the "documentation" just opens a blank white window. I kind of think, flatseal doesn't work on MX Linux :D

deinstalled flatseal - let's see if I can open the folder for the debug now

no, clicking folder icon in settings, nothing happens. And yes I closed and restarted gajim but have not restarted my whole system

and gajim crashes if I click multiple times of a pics, to save as, or open folder in a chat. for the crash, I would need the last bits of the log created before the crash, right?

Yes

maybe uninstall and reinstall to make sure permissions are right

buy a new computer

lol what

Works for Windows 🫠

julian: I think you need a package related to portals, like xdg-desktop-portal-gtk

> julian: I think you need a package related to portals, like xdg-desktop-portal-gtk shouldn't these kind of things be included in a flatpak? Checking my PackageInstaller, I see a Paket: xdg-desktop-portal-gtk Version: 1.14.1-1 being able to be installed. Sounds like it really need such a thing. The question, running XFCE, is it really the Gnome one I need? ↺

how to get omemo on gajim?

it wont let me click anything along the lines of omemo , openpgp or just pgp

Update to the latest version

What is needed to get spell check to function, I can't get it to work with the package from my repo or the flatpak, using Linux

my install says gspell is missing, but it's installed on my system

Anfeald, it should work with flatpak out of the box; for the repo version you might need the python bindings for gspell

check gajim package info in your distribution for optional dependencies

Yeah I am surprised the flatpak didn't work, the Dino flatpak has the same issue

Maybe you see what's the problem, if you start the flatpak version from commandline.

you could just... not use flatpak, guaranteed to solve 100% of flatpak issues

julian, according to https://flatpak.github.io/xdg-desktop-portal/ `xdg-desktop-portal-xapp` is the recommended portal for xfce