Gajim - 2024-09-04

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Is anonymous login supported on version 1.7.3?

hyol: I don't know if it works but it is an option

hyol: are you having problems with it?

No. I couldn't find the option.

hyol: in case you never found it, you go to Accounts>Manage Accounts>Add Account>Sign Up and tick the bock for Sign up Anonymously. The server must support it for it to work. ✏

hey im having issues enabling my first account

Ty fjklp

I would prefer something ephemeral and per-join though.

Like simplex chat's "incognito mode" feature. ✏

> hey im having issues enabling my first account What issues are you having?

> I would prefer something ephemeral and per-join though. It would also be cool if you could have a different Tor circuit for each join.

Maybe TCP isolation as well.

The more I read about protobuf, the more I realise it's a huge mistake. 🙄We shouldn't have copied whatever signal does. Oh, well...

kalkin: use OpenPGP for XMPP

lissine: it's a different beast with different security properties.

lissine: also im not going to install open Keychain, generate gpg key and do all other magic rituals to on each device my normie family has. Omemo is just simpler ✏

lissine: also im not going to install open Keychain, generate gpg key and do all other magic rituals on each device my normie family has. Omemo is just simpler ✏

kalkin: then simply wait for MLS

lissine: MLS? ✏

new e2ee scheme similar to OMEMO

but better suited for group chats ✏

kalkin: Messaging Layer Security https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc9420.html

Thanks ❤️

lissine: is there some one working on it bringing it to xmpp world?

Not that I'm aware of Client developers are mostly waiting for MLS libraries for the programming languages they use

kalkin: https://nlnet.nl/project/XMPP-MLS/ from last year but I don't know the outcome

Hmm, Ic. Thank you meson.

The forge has been slooooow for pulling/pushing for a few days. is there an ongoing attack or something? ✏

Gajims GitLab instance? I haven't noticed

Yes. Web UI is fine, but from git CLI pushes and pulls take about 1 minute or so ✏

the entire site was down a few days ago. maybe there are still some issues with it?

is MLS quantum resistant ?

> new e2ee scheme similar to OMEMO will this be actually rolled out on XMPP or is it just fuss? ✏ ↺

currently being worked on.

for the new xep and example implementation in Dino afaik ✏

there is a NLnet grant for it.

Ichtyx: quantum resistance is snake-oil.

What's quantum resistance supposed to be ?

> What's quantum resistance supposed to be ? encryption reistant to be being broken by a quantaum computer. ↺

The Wild: https://netmeister.org/blog/pqc-2024-01.html

Kris: why ? I mean for now yes, but why build something now that can be destroy in the futur ?

because no one really knows what real quantum computers will be capable off and the post quantum cryptographic contests regularly end with proposed algorithms turning out no better than existing regular ones or sometimes significantly worse.

its an interesting research field, but anyone "selling" this right now is a charlatan.

and yes I know this includes Signal.

but they pretty much lost all credibility when they started peddling with crypto currencies and Moxy also left.

(I think the regular signal encryption is fine though, just a bit older by now).

I known some cryptographers and they told me kyber is good

Also ssh default to quantum resistant algo

Openbsd/ssh people are not charlatan

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unique: please write some text. This is a channel with 300+ users.

Ichtyx: up to you 🤷‍♂️

eventually all current conventional encryption algorithm will be broken in the future ✏