Gajim - 2024-09-02

a little workaround for the annoyance of the brief pending icon is to set chat_merge_consecutive_nickname=deactivated

Hi When I enable omemo for a chat, I see a full shield (OMEMO encryption is active and authenticated) But if I click on the shield, all the fingerprints shown have a half shield in front of them (Blind Trust) I'm using 1.9.3

I didn't trust any of the keys, so shouldn't a half shield be shown in the chat UI?

lissine: I see half-shields in this case (at least in 1:1 chats) in Gajim 1.9.3

Maybe something is broken in my setup

hi, when i try to add a biboumi irc server jid to my roster, gajim thinks it's a group chat, then throws an exception when i try to join it...

Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/python3.12/site-packages/gajim/gtk/groupchat_join.py", line 144, in _on_join app.window.show_add_join_groupchat( File "/usr/lib/python3.12/site-packages/gajim/gtk/main.py", line 1283, in show_add_join_groupchat self.add_group_chat(account, jid_, select=True) File "/usr/lib/python3.12/site-packages/gajim/gtk/main.py", line 1065, in add_group_chat self._chat_page.add_chat_for_workspace(workspace_id, File "/usr/lib/python3.12/site-packages/gajim/gtk/chat_page.py", line 260, in add_chat_for_workspace client.get_module('Contacts').add_group_chat_contact(jid) File "/usr/lib/python3.12/site-packages/gajim/common/modules/contacts.py", line 149, in add_group_chat_contact raise ValueError(f'Trying to add GroupchatContact {jid}, ' ValueError: Trying to add GroupchatContact irc.libera.chat@irc.chat.domain.net, but contact already exists as irc.libera.chat@irc.chat.domain.net (chat.flitpix.net) (in roster: False)

i'm running the latest version of everything, and i also get a crash in cheogram. i self-host biboumi on my prosody server. any ideas?

yes you cannot do that

groupchats dont belong in the roster ✏

p42ity, lissine the shield is always full

there is no half shield for omemo

lovetox, shouldn't the shield indicate whether you have trusted your contact's keys, or whether you're using Blind Trust?

That's how shields are shown in front of fingerprints

> lovetox, shouldn't the shield indicate whether you have trusted your contact's keys, or whether you're using Blind Trust? A half-shield would indicate to the user that the encryption situation is non-ideal, and could be improved. They would click on it, see the fingerprints of their contact, verify some manually, and only then should the shield in the chat UI become full ↺

I rather remove the button altogether

its only a shortcut to the contact info dialog

I dont think its important that you see at all times if you verified all of your contacts devices

there should be only 2 mods, either you disable blind trust, then it will prompt you when new devices are there, so you dont need a icon to tell you

or you use blind trust, which is basically a mode for people that do not care that much

Seems like this bug grabs my username rather than my profile name lol

https://upload.bryan.yt:5281/file_share/lDwYssP9RD9B7dRcEOlZVO47/c509e26d-7945-45f2-a9d4-1b2f7f13452b.png

(as seen in the top left, when sending a Direct Transfer) ✏

Evening.

I have an issue. I'm stuck on gajim 1.7.3. I wanted to bump the rpms. So I started upgrading dependencies. Wanted to package omemo-dr, figured out I need pythin-protobuf >= 4.21.0. For building protobuf you need *bazel*

Do I need to package bazel for fedora to build an up2date protobuf package (fedora is stuck at 3.x.y) to just build an up to date gajim?

not sure what you expect as answer now

Gajim needs the dependencies it needs ..

lovetox just checking. Thanks.

I thought maybe there is a known workaround or something. ✏

lovetox: are there plans to change that in some distant future?

what do you mean, protobuf is necessary, and 4.21 is > 2 years old

are you asking if we in the future dont need protobuf anymore?

lovetox: well fedora 40 has protobuf 3.x something.

hmm, you should check if this is really 3.x

debian for example packages 4.21 as 3.21

I guess it's the last version which worked without bazel.?

no thats not what i mean

they change the version, for some reason they want it not called 4.x

look here

https://packages.debian.org/source/bookworm-backports/omemo-dr

in debian omemo-dr depends on protobuf 3.21

for some reason the protobuf developers made the python bindings jump a major version higher

and nobody wanted that because it does not follow the C library now anymore

> hmm, you should check if this is really 3.x > > debian for example packages 4.21 as 3.21 The URL in rpm Speck of protobuf pulls in the tag 3.19.6

i dont see any reference to a "bazel" dependency in debian

are you talking about build dependencies?

lovetox: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/protobuf/blob/rawhide/f/protobuf.spec

or runtime

> i dont see any reference to a "bazel" dependency in debian > > are you talking about build dependencies? Build Dependency of protobuf, which is needed by python-protobuf

Ooh I see bazel is even packaged for ubuntu/debian (according to protobuf src/README.md)

Hmm, bazel is even versioned nowaday. But I bet I need bazel to build bazel. ✏

i mean try to use protobuf 3.19

it was something about compiling the messages that changed

but maybe its backwards compatible

> it was something about compiling the messages that changed > > but maybe its backwards compatible It's a google project. I'm sceptical 😁, but I will try

Thanks for the hint

i remember around the time, people got warnings to recompile there proto files

so we recompiled them with 4.21 and then depend on that version, but i never checked if this was really necessary