Gajim - 2024-07-30

Great! Thank you!

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huh. Virtualbox (the program gui, not virtual machines) can do animations when animations are turned off. I guess because it's using Qt. ✏

> Gajim 1.9.3 has been released 🎉 > This release fixes an issue with the MS Store installer and brings some improvements. Thank you for all your contributions! > https://gajim.org/post/2024-07-29-gajim-1.9.3-released/ Uploaded to Debian unstable. Will be in testing/trixie/Debian 13 in ca. two days, I hope. ↺

hello from gajim 1.9.3 :D

debacle: thanks a lot

fjklp: adding hightlights without animations plus keeping animations for all the other users adds a lot of overhead. I don't think there is an easy way in GTK to check if animations are enabled. At least not as easy as in pure CSS

Do you mean that it takes a lot of work to make highlights not animated while leaving other animations as is?

Do you have any solutions in mind? I assume that you are not intending to leave message highlights broken for gnome users without animations turned on.

I'm surprised that there is no fallback behavior for the highlight animation when animations are disabled.

fjklp: I want to have animations. Adding highlights both with and without animations would require to add various timers to add/remove classes at the right moment in order to have it both ways.

Bad news: The drag drop situaton hasn't changed on Plasma Wayland for Gajim Flatpak. Darn! Will look into it again at the end of the week and hope that it hasn't regressed anything.

Why can't I upload a profile picture?

zsoloviev: where does it fail?

It appears thta Gajim does not display "reason" when is given, upon devoicing a participant.

> zsoloviev: where does it fail? https://i.imgur.com/FEucu4l.png ↺

zsoloviev: and the you click edit and the pen icon for uploading an image.

> zsoloviev: and the you click edit and the pen icon for uploading an image. Through experience, I discovered that you can only add images up to 10Kb in size. But the image doesn't show up on anyone except my local one. The display name also does not change. ↺

zsoloviev: ok, tgis is very dependant on your provider/server. Upload limits are enforced by stanza size limits the server can process. We take a guess here, which can be improved. Other than that, please make sure you set the correct permissions (the hand icon at the bottom)

If that also fails, it may be a missing server module for converting avatars between different standard. You can check Gajim > Info > Features for that

Ah no, I meant account > server info

need some help with MUC configuration and Gajim 1.9.3 (prosody 0.12.4), I cant set a MUC to NOT "Display inline media (images, etc.) from non-members" and NOT "Display inline media (images, etc.)" Gajim GUI will show pizza of death ✏

at the end I want the MUC to never / nobody show inline media

You can only disable it for all chats

So... the fix was a one-liner? Interesting. https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/8cdd9afdeabc211acbdb6515e404c06edbfa928a

how do i remove a contact from gajim?

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> You can only disable it for all chats at least the pizza of death is annoying, there should be an error message or similar ↺

> at least the pizza of death is annoying, there should be an error message or similar What is "pizza of death"? ↺

Hello

openpgp plugin

how do i sign presence with opepgp

psi not detecting my key

>> at least the pizza of death is annoying, there should be an error message or similar > What is "pizza of death"? Spinning wheel

Alright, spent some quality time on recreating my Gajim installation on MacBook and it seems to work fine. I am running the latest from Git. It took several minutes when I started it (after half a year or so of not using Gajim) to pop up a window, then took a minute to migrate chat history and then popped up a window behind the main window to notify that it was done, which prevented me from entering anything into the main window; took a while to find the culprit. The installation was nothing special otherwise. Created a venv from scratch with Python 3.12 from Homebrew. I didn't follow the instructions for Mac on the Wiki but executed almost the same steps.

elfchen: if you still have the commands at hand, the wiki needs an update for the latest gajim release, because gstreamer etc are not listed there yet. Would you be willing to drop a line here about required package names?

Thanks for the feedback, btw

> fjklp: I want to have animations. Adding highlights both with and without animations would require to add various timers to add/remove classes at the right moment in order to have it both ways. cal0pteryx: Does this mean that you are inclined to call it a gnome problem and leave it? ↺

I can understand how you want the current highlight animation, but if gajim *requires* animations to be enabled to have full functionality, I would call that a bug.

No, it's not a gnome problem. It's just extra work on top of work

Again, I am surprised that gnome doesn't have fallback behavior built in for situations like this, but maybe the current use of animation for highlights isn't a very common thing

I'm sorry to be "creating" more work, I just try to point out broken stuff :)

elfchen: and please test voice messages and please just tell me it works ✌️

> Bad news: The drag drop situaton hasn't changed on Plasma Wayland for Gajim Flatpak. Darn! Will look into it again at the end of the week and hope that it hasn't regressed anything. Sad. I've learned to expect problems to remain, regardless of updates (unrelated to gajim) ↺

I'm probably an idiot for continuing to use gnome at this point, but it remains popular anyway, so relevant

When I created the MR I forgot to mention that I couldn't test it / should be tested but expected it to work. Sorry for that.

Got a lot to do currently other than working Gajim

> https://i.imgur.com/FEucu4l.png I wonder if there is a good alternative to imgur. They like to block IP addresses. ↺

> and please test voice messages and please just tell me it works ✌️ Presumably that needs gstreamer? I'll try in an hour.

>Other than that, please make sure you set the correct permissions (the hand icon at the bottom) I'd add mention of the hand icon to https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/wikis/help/gajimfaq#how-can-i-make-my-avatar-available-to-other-people-in-public-group-chats if I had wiki permissions

test

what

reactions?

lol

is this new feature of XMPP or did you guys implemented it on your own?

raizenxd, https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0444.html

copyright 2019-2024

probably not completely new.

okay then I live under a rock

But I love that it's now implemented in Gajim.

Unfortunately missing from Conversations (my other loved client)

the forks Cheogram and Monocles at least show them as a fallback

Movim and Dino also support reactions

gajim does too now

added in a recent update

well that's what we just talked about

oh... oops

sorry

fjklp: looks like GTK has "gtk-enable-animations", which is a performance flag and not an accessibility setting like CSS's "prefers-reduced-motion". There are discussions around the latter here: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/merge_requests/7344

I'll try to read it all later

> gajim does too now And very much appreciated! ↺

cal0pteryx, meson: It looks like I can record a voice message, at least it pops up the window, requests permission to record and the graph fluctuates https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/5dd7b535-a53d-4115-b314-0f3c8e556153

I was able to install gstreamer via Homebrew (actually was already installed through some other dependency) but the gst-plugins simply don't seem to exist. Same for libav and farstream.

Thanks! That error doesn't look like it's part

Yeah, looks very similar to the errors I had months ago when trying to run Gajim.

elfchen: those look like the ones we saw on Windows with GLib 2.80+. Downgrading to a version below that would be a workaround. For Windows, it got fixed thankfully. It's an issue with the Gio bindings for python

Not related to voice messages. If the graph oscillates, it should be fine

OK, Homebrew currently comes with glib 2.80.4. Not sure if it is feasible to downgrade with Homebrew.