Gajim - 2024-07-27

Hey so, I have several accounts set, but when I "disabled" some (toggling the button in "managing accounts" window) I see in debug console that they still try to connect and stuff. Is that the supposed behavior? Is it just supposed to hide them from gui, not "disable" them?

Aand also, I had some muc on a server. The server has been reinstalled (snikket to ejabberd, the import_prosody has failed..) so those MUC doesn't exist anymore on server, but they also immediately disappeared in my gajim, do I have a way of getting back the history?

I can see they still are in logs.db

> do I have a way of getting back the history? You can use the search feature, and check the 'Search All Chats' option. Then click any of the results that belong to the 'hidden' room ✏

Yeah, I just recreated the same rooms (and added the same subdomain for muc for them to correspond) and pew pew, here they are :)

But I couldn't make the dm from muc appear, so your strategy was a better one! thanks

I have the same error as mentioned in https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/issues/10160 Self-signed cert on ejabberd server, trying to http_upload some files returns a "the signing certificate authority is not known".

The issuer seems to finally resolve that by "adding self-signed cert to Trusted root CA", though I'm quite bad at understanding this level of certificates meaning, and can't really tell what this mean/how this should be done, if it's server side, at cert generation, or client side?

any help appreciated (even tho im going to sleep right now)

How do I prevent Gajim from flashing the window for each new message/highlight?

concerto: Gajim > Preferences > Advanced > Advanced Configuration Editor > use_urgency_hint

Thanks fjklp

Hi, I recently started using Gajim as my computer client and I love it. Since I'm used to Conversations and its support for calls, it was a bad surprise to me and my friend group when we found out that gajim doesnt support that yet

I have several questions about that. Is support for calls (like those in Conversations) being worked on? or is it put on some waiting list... Also, does Gajim's STUN server option function? since I've read that Gajim lacks proper voice/video calls support somewhere in the repo and idk if it's meant by that the STUN option doesn't work either; I'll try this anyways

a stun server is for calls, calls do not work, so not sure what you need a stun server option for

and yes generally its beeing worked on, but dont hold your breath that it will soon work

I have that stun server option in my ui so I had some hope lol; Thank you for your response, I'm happy to hear that it's being worked on ever so slightly, besides, waiting is fun!

Running Gajim from source :D

Having a read through the source code, maybe I can contribute a bit at some point :3

Tried writing my own client for a while, but I soon realized that it's way too much work for one person... But perhaps I could improve something more established

yes thats a good idea :)

https://upload.mizah.xyz:5281/upload/dGYSM28lo3r9YtAM70HVaGF7/50644595-02f3-4d45-b030-b06bc85e4910.png

Maybe I can fix whatever this is...

a missing icon in your theme

Issue is probably in however Gajim got packaged in NixOS

I've got the project open and running in an IDE, so might as well take a peek at what's supposed to be there

"user-info-symbolic"

https://gitlab.gnome.org/Archive/gnome-icon-theme-symbolic/-/blob/master/gnome/scalable/apps/user-info-symbolic.svg?ref_type=heads >:3 Found it

Now to go find how to add that to the nix package

Looks like nixpkgs doesn't have a package for icon-theme-symbolic; time to figure out how to package that, lol

What is this arcane... "Yeah, just run this weird Ruby script we have in here"

Why do I have to compile a set of icons?

***why do I need to pull in inkscape***

With a hard-coded path, *of course*

Now I see why the damn icon is missing, holy crap

Ok.

No.

I give up. This is the way of madness.

I'd have to package "gnome icon tools" too, whatever that is.

Who knows what other arcane dependencies this thing wants.

I'm not doing this for 9 tiny icons

gnome is bloat

Nah... I think they actually improved on this point, but the symbolic icons appear to be considered legacy

Oh someone else https://forum.manjaro.org/t/configure-error-icon-naming-utils-0-8-7-is-required-even-though-installed-only-when-installing-multiple-packages/135309

What the heck is a "theme index file"

I thought gajim keeps debug logs up until debug logging was disabled and re-enabled? Under what conditions does it clear out old debug logs?

3 days

lovetox: Hey. I was asking in XSF chat about the requirements of replies. I asked there since I figured it's not a gajim problem.

every client decides themself when to show a reply or not, its a decision in the GUI

In Gajim we show the menu, when the message has a proper <stanza-id> element, and you dont have the role "Visitor"

if you dont see it, i bet the MUC does not add a stanza-id element

but you can easily check this with View -> Debug Console, it shows you all stanzas that come in

How does gajim decide whether to show the option to reply?

maybe that's what you meant?

for the muc in question, there is no button to make replies

> In Gajim we show the menu, when the message has a proper <stanza-id> element, and you dont have the role "Visitor" I don't understand this. Which message? ↺

oh, stupid me. I get it.

yes, it looks like the server does not add a <stanza-id>. Thanks.

> I have the same error as mentioned in https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/issues/10160 > Self-signed cert on ejabberd server, trying to http_upload some files returns a "the signing certificate authority is not known". Any hint? Asking everybody to add cert to trusted root ca seems difficult :/ ↺

The same cert is used and accepted for connections and everything, why is this not usable for http_upload specifically?

because we dont have that implemented

ok, how can I help to make that happen?

Welp... I give up, but I got some distance in, lol. https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/330506#issue-2433624741

mizah: thanks for looking into it 👍

This was definitely way too much effort for a couple of tiny icons, lol

Still is, btw... I'm stuck on it

...but bedtime. Can't work on this if I'm a zombie