Gajim - 2024-07-11

hi

Can you hear me?

redhotchili-palmer: yes

thx

Am I right that there is no issue or MR involving the idea that replies should cause a notification like mentions?

I suppose the converse view would be that one should add the recipient's nick to cause a notification

I'm curious if anyone else has an opinion on this

lovetox: There is a new PR for libproxy to hopefully solve the DIRECT problem. But I guess it is not so easy to test until the code has been merged into GLib?

But then again, it is just a PR for now, so it will never be integrated into GLib this way. Maybe we can hack the fix into GLib of Gajim somehow?

I registered XMPP today. I wanted to make sure my communication was working.

fjklp: I think it's mentioned in the activity center issue

ah

I actually don't see that mentioned there

zak: libproxy is a library, why do you think it gets integrated into glib

We can build the lib with msys

lovetox: Ok, I expressed it wrong. I meant it is used by GLib.

It takes some effort but we can build libproxy and the exchange the dll on your machine

If you can do that I will test it.

Why is there a libbluray-2.dll inside the Gajim directory? 🤔

Does Gajim playback Blu-rays? 😆

We cannot review every dll a lib installs

I know. It was not meant as criticism.

Not taken as one 😃

Gm

guys i have a problem with legacy pgp addon after setting up pgp with guy i talk with everything works fine, we can talk to each other and we don't miss messages but after closing and re-opening gajim my encrypted messages are not being delivered to recipient gajim (1.9.1) is from flatpak with only GNOME Application Platform 46 installed

enable debug logging

and look for errors

you can also try and check, View -> Debug Console -> Log

Asslam o alikum

> enable debug logging yes, there is an error ↺

potential problem: ERROR: pkdecrypt_failed 83886166

decryption don't work

secret keys are fine (they are specified in pgp settings in both clients correctly)

hey, maybe gajim needs password for these keys

yeah, it seems to be the problem of gajim forgetting passwd to key (and the problem is also related to slim DM which i'm using)

I was able to use pgp only because of gpg caching the passphrase and when there is no cache gajim won't be able to decrypt message i'm still don't know how to make gajim ask for this passphrase

hmm

check your gpg agent config

normally gajim tries to decrypt or encrypt, and gpg agent should ask you for the pass

don't see gpg-agent.conf in ~/.gnupg/

created one and configured it to use pinentry-gnome3, but still no prompt from gajim when receiving pgp message

the problem now seems to be that gajim not asking for pgp passphrase, but it can use it if it is cached

I am kinda intrigued by Dino 0.4.4's style of displaying images. Here's a comparison between Dino (the button only appears on hover) and Gajim. Could you imagine such a style too for Gajim? It definitely looks less heavy and I also like the rounded corners somehow:

https://share.conversations.im/meeson_/NGBSAFYyfTyCGMgH/Screenshot_20240711_200041.png

It surely looks nice. I would like to keep the meta data display though. Could be an overlay which shows on hover, semi-transparent, showing file name/size and a "more" button ?

probably special setting in menu will work better like having a switch from big image mode (like dino) to display metadata mode (like now)

still waiting for video thumbnails tho

Special setting? Big image mode?

Dino is based on gtk 4. Video player widgets come for free there

looks very big to me

like you can max fit 2 on your laptop screen

the cleaner look i like though

i think metadata on overlay is a good idea, and menu options behind a button

ah i forgot we have a setting for size

so this should not be an issue

> ah i forgot we have a setting for size Great, but just in code or somewhere in the UI? ↺

I cannot find the right setting.

Preference chats

Thanks! I had overlooked it

wurstsalat pushed 1 commits to branch gajim/master fix: ChatListRow: Indicate received file for encrypted messages - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/20fd2b9197908b1037e158a2437d3032437f535f

So roughly 450 px is what Dino uses as a maximum. The nize thing though is, their size is responsive to the window size. ✏

So roughly 450 px is what Dino uses as a maximum. The nice thing though is, their size is responsive to the window size. ✏

Meaning it shrinks, when you shrink the window.

thats probably a gtk4 thing

in general i dont think big pictures is a nice thing

thats a chat application not a photo viewer

wurstsalat pushed 1 commits to branch gajim/master fix: SearchView: Prevent burst of db queries when holding enter - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/13b1bd43128c6af982f475b574a97b15687ca471

> thats a chat application not a photo viewer Depends on the use case. Scrolling through a Photography MUC with bigger pictures is more fun. :)

are there differences in used icons between flatpak and other packages?

I want to make an issue related to icon problems but I don't know if I need to check on things other than flatpak

And if you don't need to open a picture in an external viewer because it's otherwise too small, that's a big plus imo ✏

meson, you can configure preview size. if it's too small for you personally, it's easy to increase it

fjklp, there might be, since library versions can be different in flatpak compared to those on your system

generally gajim uses a mix of gtk icons (available from the selected theme) and additional shipped icons from other icon packs (or custom ones)

how does gajim select an icon in non-flatpak cases?

it asks the system for an icon for a given identifier

the system can then deliver whatever it wants^^

I see, thanks

I suppose at present I should just concern myself with flatpak-centric icons

fjklp, hard to say because I don't have a clue what the issue might be

cal0pteryx: I know, I've increased it and it works fine as long as I almost use a fullscreen window. When tiling it by half the image becomes relatively too big. :) I will patiently wait to the day when we are ready to migrate to gtk4 or maybe even 5 by the time :D

ah, I always use 80%-ish size and never change it

anyone know if you can use the GTK inspector in flatpak?

> anyone know if you can use the GTK inspector in flatpak? Yes. Do `GTK_DEBUG=interactive flatpak run org.gajim.Gajim.Devel` ↺

thanks! added that to the Wiki

Is there a way to organize chats into groups (or folders)?

yessikg, yes, use Workspaces!

Ah, ok that makes sense

if only I had any idea how to use it

I thought it would be a simple task to select an obect and print its file path

fjklp: those are in-depth questions. I'd like to know what's wrong, high-level

Gtk inspector shows you the icon name

That's what gajim queries

Sadly, this is the only chat where I can assume that my reactions will be seen. An unfortunate product of mixed-client protocols.