Gajim - 2024-06-30

> Yes, I have. MonarchIC: Does the message go through? ↺

What happens?

> MonarchIC: Does the message go through? In the end it did. Gajim on Ubuntu exhibits a few weird issues. The 1 I mentioned earlier and later on it would not connect to a public Jabber server when Brave PWA Movim and Cheogram on GrapheneOS did. That seems to have cleared up as well. I am a relative newbie on the Jabber front and I guess I still have master the ecosystem... ↺

Yeah. There are all sorts of problems that can crop up at various points in the system. It's hard to say what happened when you couldn't connect without getting more info. You can always enable debug logging in Gajim>Preferences>Advanced. The folder icon there will show you where they are saved. Otherwise, you can start gajim from a terminal with `gajim -v` to print to the terminal output.

The terminal command will certainly come in handy in the future

hey

everything is temporary

test934284: doom is eternal

Spam

Spam

Spam

Spam

Spam

Spam

Spam

Spam

any1 can send me some good xmpp rooms?

amogus, you are a very mean person in DM

Jwah

Yeah

shut up

Please, moderators, shut him up...

> shut up what the fuck are you even on about ↺

Spam

zayd [telepath]: dont feed the troll

Spam

Spam

Spam

Spam

Spam

Spam

Spam

Spam

Spam

Spam

Spam

Spam

Spam

The issue of group chats showing turning circles and a noticication that I am offline, which I am not. I am now typing this from Movim instead, which clearly does what's expected. Anyone encountered this before and how did you solve the problem?

Test

After a very long time the turning circles disappeared and the notifications that I am offline are gone again. The message I wrote from Movim doesn't show up in Gajim now...

The turning circle apparently mean 'Joining Group Chat...'

MonarchIC: when you click on a chat with a loading spinner, you'll see a message that it's trying to join/fetching messages

When I hover over the turning circles

The connection in Gajim is lost again

in place of the turning circles there is now a lightning symbol

When I hover over that it says 'Not connected'

In the meantime, Movim has no problem connecting at all

I guess, it probably isn´t an issue of the server since Movim and Cheogram have no problems

MonarchIC: you don't need to guess, there is a Debug Console in Gajim which prints the protocol bits behind all the things you're seeing in the client

https://suchat.org:5443/upload/5034b84eb896ddb71102c1ee7f443e0e039dc9d2/Jma9AqGCk8H8mDJa7qSoNpe9oDj0wmLPHzDxM7Tn/2024-06-30-150035-debug.log

That's the log

The problem only exists with the suchat.org server chat groups

MonarchIC, if there is not much activity in Gajim, we send a ping to the server, if this ping is not answered withing 10s, Gajim disconnects

after the ping was sent which you can see in the log searching for "125471431561744", your server send 2 MAM messages, but never answered the ping

is this your own server?

> is this your own server? No, a public server somewhere in Spain ↺

next step in my opinion would be to contact the server admin, to ask for help in debugging this

if this is reproduceable you can see from the log when we send a ping, and give the admin the timestmap, and ask why the ping is never answered

Ok

Thanks for the tips

Is there a service you would recommend moving to for regular chat groups?

I have recently bit the bullet and got on board the JMP Chat/Snikket/Cheogram offering

I intended to limit that to family and friends

But I read that it might be best to stick to paid services

are you saying you pay for hosting the xmpp server with snikket?

if so, i dont really understand why you would need another xmpp account on another server to join groupchats

I have had this suchat.org account for a number of years now. I recently subscribed to JMP Chat, which is basically a +1 USA DID based service and includes a Snikket instance for no extra charge

I best get all my eggs in the JMP Chat/Snikket/Cheogram basket, for Android, that is

I just noticed that hyperlinks in the room description have a different color than other hyperlinks. It looks like the description hyperlinks are the color used by adwaita dark, while other hyperlinks are following my gtk theme, which is not adwaita dark. ✏

it follows the link color gajim sets

but i think we can remove the url color in gajim, i think its obsolete now

ic_, i updated the omemo-dr package

try now if it still wants to deinstall gajim

lovetox pushed 1 commits to branch gajim/master ci: Allow to force debian deployment - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/0f352de42dd69d28f25a0b7f75857ec7570a8ebc

is it possible to clean chat window (Ctrl+L in old gajim) in newer versions?

ann: no

No but if I remind well (sorry but I'm on the phone by now) you can setup an auto delete of your history. After 1 day i.e.

how to make gajim load big chats (with 5+ years of MAM history) load a bit faster than 1 minute?

We only load 1 day ✏

In groupchats

For single there is the history sync dialog where you can sync whole history in one go

hello, i just wanted to say thanks for making rich replies a thing in the latest version of Gajim, means a lot to me

Good to hear :)

lovetox installed omemo-dr but it still wanted to remove gajim so I let it go thinking it may install but I get error, I think the package depenancy is incorrect Unsatisfied dependencies: python3-omemo-dr : Depends: python3 (< 3.12) but 3.12.2-1 is to be installed Error: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.

Question is what package depends on python 3.12

Hm Debian unstable has 3.12

Hey, is there a reason Gajim don't show image preview by default?

lovetox it looks like gajim-nightly is the broken package

lovetox looks like python3omemo-dr did not install Package python3-omemo-dr has no available version, but exists in the database. This typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and never uploaded, has been obsoleted or is not available with the contents of sources.list

Codimp, because people dont want to download random images in group chats

ok, good reason, thanks

ic_, i think i know the problem, i will try to rebuild the packages

👍️

wurstsalat pushed 1 commits to branch gajim/master fix: MessageRowActions: Fix widget margin in RTL mode - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/67e46ad44d44d057a53d2fb09c06dcd1924fb25f