Gajim - 2024-06-29

> flexx: > ( I absolutely don't want to bother,- just maybe help a bit ... ) > (... hi,- I would have sent you a screenshot of my gajim settings but I think it is not okay to do in here ?!) > ..by the way : if you like and have the time to read some lines; in case you didn't recognised already before .. --maybe it helps, too ? > >> https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/wikis/home > >> https://www.freie-messenger.de/en/xmpp/gajim/ > > ( I am just a normal user and no gajim expert for sure !) You dont bother at all! I appreciate the help and for your time. Thank you I will look into it.

lovetox pushed 1 commits to branch gajim/master feat: Show participant avatar in MUC notifications - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/16ff9c30a98f31b7a3228a996b2d1ffa119b9d98

was the page deprecated at https://gajim.org/support/extensions/ ? ✏

lovetox pushed 1 commits to branch gajim/master feat: Make HTTP links clickable in room descriptions - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/c0f61266c062d7e422842a7547bba740638a7ac7

nevermind, I figured it out

https://gajim.org/support/extensions/ now mentions https://xmpp.org/software/gajim/ , but there was no xep list. Then I noticed that there is a button at the bottom of the page to 'Show Supported XEPs' ✏

In saw no reason in maintaining this list in two places, that's why I linked to xmpp.org

Understandable. It's easy for me to say (since I don't have to do it), but maybe one could mirror the other.

It's actually the same data source. The only difference is that we needed to keep a file from xmpp.org up to date in order to render current versions of xeps

Manually

I guess there is no way to merge my db from old gajim db with my new gajim db?

I know that I can convert the old to new, but I want to merge

On Debian sid nightly and the du for the last several days has wanted to remove Gajim and python3-omemo-dr I think it may be related to the recent Python update.

lovetox__, in a commit you changed `if string is None` to `if not string`, interestingly PEP8 recommends not doing so: > Comparisons to singletons like None should always be done with is or is not, never the equality operators. I wonder if that's a personal taste/preference or if there is another justification for this?

you should not do this to test for None

but we need to test for None and empty string

if you just check for None, you needlessly run the full method for an empty string

ic_, hm could well be, i think omemo-dr is build for python 3.10

does debian sid already has 3.11?

Oh right, returning early with empty string here makes sense, thanks for the explanation!

currently sid has python3 3.11.8-1 latest version 3.12.2-1

i will try to update the package

lovetox, yes, the site detects OS

lovetox pushed 1 commits to branch gajim/master fix: Remove unnecessary space between quotes - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/59bee7d706996b3bc8d6c0eb65ed0f057b1c460b

When I try to pick up a chat I started in Cheogram on my phone, in Gajim in Ubuntu, I get the error "No devices found to encrypt this message to. Querying for devices now…"

What could be the issue?

MonarchIC: have you tried sending the message again after getting that error message?

that reminds me, I always get that message, I believe repeated 3 times, the first time I try to send an omemo message in a given chat. This really should be fixed.

maybe I should make an issue

is there a way to turn off the emoji reaction selector thing that now appears whenever i hover over any message

> is there a way to turn off the emoji reaction selector thing that now appears whenever i hover over any message I don't think so ↺

why not?

i can't scroll through messages without a giant brightly coloured popup floating in front of them

What's your screen size?

1920x1080

ok, i have that too and dont have that problem, can you not make gajim wider?

and are you saying you are happy if the quick reactions are gone, but the overlay is still there with the other buttons?

perhaps

i think a "Dont Show Quick Reactions" Setting is in the realm of possibilities, but the overlay will never go away

it has functionality that would otherwise simply unavailable

that's reasonable

is that just because if you go with the mouse to the overlay, the scrolling does not work anymore?

so if we make it scroll even with mouse over the overlay, that solves also your problem?

i can scroll

it's just kind of obtrusive

since it covers up some of the message text

and is more visually attention-grabbing than the mssage text

due to the brightly coloured emoji

i think in option to not show the emojis (and having that functionality available through the 'add reaction' button)

would be good

an option*

i added a feature request on the tracker

thank you

> MonarchIC: have you tried sending the message again after getting that error message? Yes, I have. ↺

When I try Cheogran and Movim instead, it works just fine

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Robots controlled by China's right-wing are swiping the screen everywhere

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ok interesting gajim shows replies to messages which were moderated

hello

could u tell me the way to get minecraft on windows for free

ubq323, if you scroll hovering the mouse over the scrollbar the popup menu shouldn't appear. is that a suitable workaround for you?

flexx: > https://www.freie-messenger.de/en/xmpp/ (... there are also some very interesting details for xmpp-clients and settings in there,- I thought ... )

What do you read or see here:🇨​🇹​🇭​🇷​🇪​🇪​ 🇳​🇴​🇼​

For me in Gajim:

https://share.conversations.im/meeson_/Nf9g88mReGFZyB3N/Screenshot_20240629_190704.png

In Dino:

https://share.conversations.im/meeson_/byDIukaDtnjUr0jR/Screenshot_20240629_190733.png

Both use the same font, Noto Sans, I believe.

https://media.kosmos.chat/45/45c0da8bd6344d732fec45522bc75056-zb2rhj1b1EVb6NtrKszRU8PxCLw3CvQ6DXUptKgasqtXJozMa.jpg

On Conversations it's fine for me too. The question is how do you see it in Gajim :)

Another issue: In RTL mode the three dots menu button on message hover can be clicked but no action is triggered.

And the right click context menu for participants appears on the wrong place. I will open issues about it.

https://upload.gajim.org:5281/upload/_2YHZqb87P9D5GMjR6Nv-rVB/7fe65d64-3aa7-499f-ad14-83fe678e5d37.png

> On Conversations it's fine for me too. The question is how do you see it in Gajim :) this^ ↺

wait, replies don't ping/highlight/mention (do we have an unambiguous word that means to cause a notification for a user?)

> https://upload.gajim.org:5281/upload/_2YHZqb87P9D5GMjR6Nv-rVB/7fe65d64-3aa7-499f-ad14-83fe678e5d37.png weird ↺

ubuntu 23.10. I don't know what determines how it's displayed exactly.

meson, looks for normal like for fjklp

but i also dont find this in the emoji selector

also our emoji library does say the chars are not emojis

> Unlike Emoji ZWJ Sequences, Flag Sequences do not use a Zero Width Joiner character. When two Regional Indicator characters are inserted in sequence, certain pairs automatically create a grapheme cluster on supported platforms.

emojis are complex

where is support determined in this case?

the font can display it or not