Gajim - 2024-06-22

Is there a way to change time to 12 hrs vs 24

Hey, i have a problem with gajim 1.8 and void Linux. Since the Update Gajim to 1.8 or later, is the trust of all contacts fingerprints untrust. Now i get "Diese Nachricht wurde mit Omemo verschlüsselt, aber nicht für dieses Gerät". But all contacts was trusted. I checked the python3-omemo-dr Version in void Linux.. The Version is 1.0. Gajim-omemo is also installed. Is this a void Linux Problem?

I'm on void and I can't say I've had any omemo issues. With my one omemo contact I get a full green shield and they get a half green shield, but I can still read the messages. (Sorry if I misunderstood the error, I don't do Germam)

Though I am on 1.9

> Is there a way to change time to 12 hrs vs 24 Go to Gajim>Preferences>Advanced>Advanced Configuration editor, search for time. There are a few different time format strings that you can configure. ↺

luca: change your system time to that format

Why?

from your comment i assume you prefer that format

Did you mean to mention Michael?

Ah, sorry, my bad

about omemo problems, do you have them with all contacts?

do you know from which version you upgraded?

maik371 ^

lol, ok i should go to sleep

maik371, try to delete the fingerprints for the affected contact in the fingerprint dialog, and restart gajim, afterwards write a message, and then it should work

lovetox pushed 1 commits to branch python-nbxmpp/master release: 5.0.1 - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/python-nbxmpp/-/commit/de6e6b577e52a5f8f9de788bda0bd87feaf39cc9

lovetox pushed 1 commits to branch gajim/master other: Update Gitlab release issue template - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/74c0b5574106da1f0ef189c557aedf5aa851d3b6

> Go to Gajim>Preferences>Advanced>Advanced Configuration editor, search for time. There are a few different time format strings that you can configure. where are preferences? ↺

> Michael: > where are preferences? Ctrl+P. ↺

Did you hide the menu occasionally?

ah, yes. ty

> bodqhrohro: > Our fork of Conversations. > I don't check the upstream, so I'm not sure if it works there as well. > Probably also works in Cheogram though. As the developer explained, it's implemented partially. It's possible to send reactions by replying with one emoji to a message. But this is broken for replying to own messages and thus I considered it broken at all. ↺

And this is indeed just ported from Cheogram.

https://upload.slidge.im:5281/file_share/TYhtNjaf6AmJTQsEulsXMz-6/Screenshot_20240622_101345.png

cal0pteryx, there's a icon-symbolic thingy thing that is wrong with dark theme and the new icon of the contact list menu

Also I wonder if the menu icon wouldn't look nicer below the gajim icon (not sure at all). anyway thanks for this addition that probably should have been part of my "hide menu bar" contrib!

nicoco: thanks, I'll fix that

I think a menu button should be on the very top. But that may change anyway, since the gajim icon is going to be replaced

> maik371, try to delete the fingerprints for the affected contact in the fingerprint dialog, and restart gajim, afterwards write a message, and then it should work I try to delete for affected contacts the fingerprints and restarted gajim. but the message of contacts can i not read. The answer is: This message is crypted with OMEMO, but not for this device" and the Fingerprint is untrust. But i have write wiht this contacts correct since to update gajim 1.8. All affectet contacts write with conversations and they can my message read but i did not read your answer. ↺

Are you saying new messages can not be reas or old ones

Because old ones you will not be able to decrypt, only new ones

yes new messages can i not read ✏

hm ask your contact if they have trusted your fingerprint

ok i ask him. thanks

i wonder me, i write a long time with the contact and all is OK, but after one update i have problems. I think, its a void Linux Problem. Perhaps a mistake with compiling the new xbps pakets. I think the new omemo-rd Bibliothek is new since 1.8.

1.9.0 had some relative major changes in void, so it might be worth updating https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/pull/50773/files

maik371, i doubt it, that would be the first time

i just checked again, the message "not for your device" is infact only raised if the contact really didnt encrypt for your device

so its not Gajims fault, it could be a server problem distributing your devices

but first thing is checking the obivous, does your contact have your fingerprint and is it trusted

Ok

wurstsalat pushed 1 commits to branch gajim/master cfix: AccountPage: Use common icon for context menu button - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/247f797a38e88812d595f97d8c03f60f1b14691d

wurstsalat pushed 1 commits to branch gajim/master imprv: ChatFunctionPage: Show MUC address when displaying error - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/a998111bf2c97484f79a6b1271351d9e3dfe1e09

wurstsalat pushed 2 commits to branch gajim/master change: Raise nbxmpp version - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/9c2b66af827cc2e7fb83c47f284ae9f5ec09004f ci: Debian: Raise nbxmpp version - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/ca5963aa7a118cc134d424a062d3faef8e7f05ae

wurstsalat pushed 1 commits to branch gajim/master release: 1.9.1 - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/8111ee7e08625b3c2e55ef03559c687321698aa1

lovetox pushed 1 commits to branch gajim/master chore: Flatpak: Update dependencies - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/f6d15b8eeabe4e447e176a0bc2781cfe12591a95

Congrats for 1.9.1 \o/

We're still in 1.8.4 in Archlinux, still waiting eheh

lovetox pushed 1 commits to branch gajim/master ci: Add manual flatpak deploy - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/468da4a9389b69f789bb57decb734a12a2d0ea5e

Top 5 Gajim Users on the Windows Store edition

https://share.hoerist.com/philipp/lmPFQ2P3eH0MLdwh/90a915aa-45a2-4e98-a624-9b83346ca25e.png

On the topic of updating packages, I am getting an error in one of the tests. `File "/builddir/gajim-1.9.1/test/gui/test_util.py", line 61, in test_get_first_grapheme; AssertionError: 'क्षि' != 'क्'`

yes you can ignore that test

i need to disable it ✏

Do you know by any chance how to ignore a test? Short of commenting it out?

hm no idea, i think you have to comment it out in the code

or maybe whatever build thingy you use, it allows you to ignore failing tests

Actually the person before me commented out the code already, and I tried removing the patch but it obviously failed. Removing (and cleaning my builddir!!!) fixed it

Hello world from 1.9.1

lovetox pushed 1 commits to branch gajim/master other: Tests: Disable failing test - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/8009024fd9d133e8af0b5de7ab2e0290f848c59e

> Hello world from 1.9.1 luca: great :) ↺

Installed gajim-git from AUR and I'm on 1.9.1 now, hellooo

you should really wait until you get the release within the official repository

hey

its my first time using gajim

> you should really wait until you get the release within the official repository Gajim is still on 1.8.7 on Arch. I switched from NixOS which had 1.9.0 and I missed those features. When the update comes to Arch packages I'll switch back ↺

do u guys host ur own XMPP and where do u host it on

I host a Prosody server on a DigitalOcean droplet. Might migrate it to a cheaper VPS at some point though

okay nice, im also thinking of buying a vps to host my XMPP server on. im gonna make sure MAM is disabled and using encryption, that would be safe enough right?

any other recommendations?

I host my server under the couch on an overworked raspberry pi 4

test934284: disabling MAM will cause trouble, since then multi-device support might degrade for you

Why disable MAM and enable encryption? What encryption?

> Why disable MAM and enable encryption? What encryption? so from what i understand, if i disable MAM, it wont store/archive the messages right? i don't really want to have messages stored on my XAMPP server ↺

and for encryption im not sure, im like a newb when it comes to this

i thought whenever u send like a message, it sends it to the XMPP server, so encrypting the message that goes through the XMPP server

with gnupg or something idk, need to do research still

What do you plan to use the server for? How many users and rooms will you be hosting?

> What do you plan to use the server for? How many users and rooms will you be hosting? just a group with my friends ↺

to communicate about stuff

😈

jk

Kinda sounds like IRC would be more appropriate :P

> Kinda sounds like IRC would be more appropriate :P imma look into it thanks ↺

gajim looks like discord with good features

i like it

I'm half joking

> I'm half joking about IRC? ↺

well yeah i dont know what it is

thought u was serious xd

IRC is just chat. No saving messages, no attachments, by default no user accounts

So you don't have to save anything

IMO the best part of XMPP is the opposite of those things, but you may disagree

ah but you can achieve the same with XMPP right?

so no saving etc

+ i think its more modern and updated from what im reading rn

Personally I don't see the point, but /shrug

> Personally I don't see the point, but /shrug yeah some things need to be kept private ↺

xd

what do you mean?

Oh I guess omemo is a good reason

why do u use XMPP luca

and why not discord lets say

Because it lighter and quicker than matrix, and can be self hosted unlike discord

If I didn't care about self hosting I would likely be using an existing instance of XMPP or Matrix

matrix also looks interesting

looks like more functionality

gonna set it up rn to test

i dont really like that u have to signup like that

with ur email and password

;c

but i think its gonna be the same as when i host XMPP myself right

because i need a domain name i think

i dont like domain names and registrars that have control over it

i think the only service that wouldn't require a domain name is irc (feel free to correct me on this)

At least no decentralized service

well i read a little bit more and i think it doesnt really matter anyways that my registrar will have control over it

they only can change the DNS, transfer domain etc i think

and about SSL/TLS i need to read about it still

this shit is so hard

for me

What is hard?

to understand all of this

Well there's plenty of rooms and people that can help explain things in different ways to make it easier to understand

im kidding

i know exactly what im doing

rn im using XMPP

for just 1 hour

never used it before or read about it

rn im reading about what an SSL/TLS issuer actually can control

and what the private key etc is for

i wanna know everything

before i use this and self host it

Hello, sorry if this was already mentioned, but 1.9.1 is still not available on flatpak.

u dont gotta be sorry

love you

lovetox pushed 1 commits to branch gajim/master cfix: Windows: Work around GLib bug with content type guessing - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/d53a41a18bd90132dc9d989d9a50b069b04f97df

common W lovetox

el o el

resoli, it takes a while, the build process worked

but i think they update the site not immediately

Thank you lovetox, I'm particularly interested in > * HistorySync: Make full sync option work again

hmm i just tried uploading .7z file

and it gave me error

is this normal?

.zip works

I have a very odd issue.

I installed a GTK app on KDE and suddenly the Gajim (flatpack) refuses to use dark mode

it was working before

the gtk app in question is Minigalaxy

at least that is what I installed when Gajim suddenly switched to light mode and refuses to switch back

> Top 5 Gajim Users on the Windows Store edition This is interesting. I would have guessed Germany to be number 1 or 2 ↺

> at least that is what I installed when Gajim suddenly switched to light mode and refuses to switch back uninstalling Minigalaxy allows darkmode in Gajim again ↺

lovetox: do you have any idea what I should look for in the xml when I send a message and gajim shows the returned message as coming from someone else?

I have the xml from one of these cases

These messages do have an occupant-id

I tried testing a different account in the same muc and it didn't produce the same behavior. I can't spot any difference in the xml between the buggy case and normal case.

Yeah send it to me

wurstsalat pushed 1 commits to branch gajim/master other: Update Gitlab release issue template - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/cddc4d0658945ae196cdbe52a6e5646ca9908ff2