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Michael
Is there a way to change time to 12 hrs vs 24
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maik371
Hey, i have a problem with gajim 1.8 and void Linux. Since the Update Gajim to 1.8 or later, is the trust of all contacts fingerprints untrust. Now i get "Diese Nachricht wurde mit Omemo verschlüsselt, aber nicht für dieses Gerät". But all contacts was trusted. I checked the python3-omemo-dr Version in void Linux.. The Version is 1.0. Gajim-omemo is also installed. Is this a void Linux Problem?
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luca
I'm on void and I can't say I've had any omemo issues. With my one omemo contact I get a full green shield and they get a half green shield, but I can still read the messages. (Sorry if I misunderstood the error, I don't do Germam)
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luca
Though I am on 1.9
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fjklp
> Is there a way to change time to 12 hrs vs 24 Go to Gajim>Preferences>Advanced>Advanced Configuration editor, search for time. There are a few different time format strings that you can configure. ↺
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lovetox
luca: change your system time to that format
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luca
Why?
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lovetox
from your comment i assume you prefer that format
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luca
Did you mean to mention Michael?
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lovetox
Ah, sorry, my bad
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lovetox
about omemo problems, do you have them with all contacts?
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lovetox
do you know from which version you upgraded?
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luca
maik371 ^
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lovetox
lol, ok i should go to sleep
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lovetox
maik371, try to delete the fingerprints for the affected contact in the fingerprint dialog, and restart gajim, afterwards write a message, and then it should work
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lovetox pushed 1 commits to branch python-nbxmpp/master release: 5.0.1 - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/python-nbxmpp/-/commit/de6e6b577e52a5f8f9de788bda0bd87feaf39cc9
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lovetox pushed 1 commits to branch gajim/master other: Update Gitlab release issue template - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/74c0b5574106da1f0ef189c557aedf5aa851d3b6
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Michael
> Go to Gajim>Preferences>Advanced>Advanced Configuration editor, search for time. There are a few different time format strings that you can configure. where are preferences? ↺
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bodqhrohro
> Michael: > where are preferences? Ctrl+P. ↺
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bodqhrohro
Did you hide the menu occasionally?
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Michael
ah, yes. ty
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bodqhrohro
> bodqhrohro: > Our fork of Conversations. > I don't check the upstream, so I'm not sure if it works there as well. > Probably also works in Cheogram though. As the developer explained, it's implemented partially. It's possible to send reactions by replying with one emoji to a message. But this is broken for replying to own messages and thus I considered it broken at all. ↺
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bodqhrohro
And this is indeed just ported from Cheogram.
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nicoco
https://upload.slidge.im:5281/file_share/TYhtNjaf6AmJTQsEulsXMz-6/Screenshot_20240622_101345.png
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nicoco
cal0pteryx, there's a icon-symbolic thingy thing that is wrong with dark theme and the new icon of the contact list menu
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nicoco
Also I wonder if the menu icon wouldn't look nicer below the gajim icon (not sure at all). anyway thanks for this addition that probably should have been part of my "hide menu bar" contrib!
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cal0pteryx
nicoco: thanks, I'll fix that
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cal0pteryx
I think a menu button should be on the very top. But that may change anyway, since the gajim icon is going to be replaced
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maik371
> maik371, try to delete the fingerprints for the affected contact in the fingerprint dialog, and restart gajim, afterwards write a message, and then it should work I try to delete for affected contacts the fingerprints and restarted gajim. but the message of contacts can i not read. The answer is: This message is crypted with OMEMO, but not for this device" and the Fingerprint is untrust. But i have write wiht this contacts correct since to update gajim 1.8. All affectet contacts write with conversations and they can my message read but i did not read your answer. ↺
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lovetox
Are you saying new messages can not be reas or old ones
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lovetox
Because old ones you will not be able to decrypt, only new ones
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yes new messages can i not read ✏
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lovetox
hm ask your contact if they have trusted your fingerprint
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maik371
ok i ask him. thanks
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maik371
i wonder me, i write a long time with the contact and all is OK, but after one update i have problems. I think, its a void Linux Problem. Perhaps a mistake with compiling the new xbps pakets. I think the new omemo-rd Bibliothek is new since 1.8.
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luca
1.9.0 had some relative major changes in void, so it might be worth updating https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/pull/50773/files
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lovetox
maik371, i doubt it, that would be the first time
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lovetox
i just checked again, the message "not for your device" is infact only raised if the contact really didnt encrypt for your device
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lovetox
so its not Gajims fault, it could be a server problem distributing your devices
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lovetox
but first thing is checking the obivous, does your contact have your fingerprint and is it trusted
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maik371
Ok
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wurstsalat pushed 1 commits to branch gajim/master cfix: AccountPage: Use common icon for context menu button - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/247f797a38e88812d595f97d8c03f60f1b14691d
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wurstsalat pushed 1 commits to branch gajim/master imprv: ChatFunctionPage: Show MUC address when displaying error - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/a998111bf2c97484f79a6b1271351d9e3dfe1e09
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wurstsalat pushed 2 commits to branch gajim/master change: Raise nbxmpp version - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/9c2b66af827cc2e7fb83c47f284ae9f5ec09004f ci: Debian: Raise nbxmpp version - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/ca5963aa7a118cc134d424a062d3faef8e7f05ae
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wurstsalat pushed 1 commits to branch gajim/master release: 1.9.1 - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/8111ee7e08625b3c2e55ef03559c687321698aa1
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lovetox pushed 1 commits to branch gajim/master chore: Flatpak: Update dependencies - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/f6d15b8eeabe4e447e176a0bc2781cfe12591a95
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Codimp
Congrats for 1.9.1 \o/
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Codimp
We're still in 1.8.4 in Archlinux, still waiting eheh
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lovetox pushed 1 commits to branch gajim/master ci: Add manual flatpak deploy - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/468da4a9389b69f789bb57decb734a12a2d0ea5e
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lovetox
Top 5 Gajim Users on the Windows Store edition
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lovetox
https://share.hoerist.com/philipp/lmPFQ2P3eH0MLdwh/90a915aa-45a2-4e98-a624-9b83346ca25e.png
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luca
On the topic of updating packages, I am getting an error in one of the tests. `File "/builddir/gajim-1.9.1/test/gui/test_util.py", line 61, in test_get_first_grapheme; AssertionError: 'क्षि' != 'क्'`
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lovetox
yes you can ignore that test
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lovetox
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lovetox
i need to disable it ✏
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luca
Do you know by any chance how to ignore a test? Short of commenting it out?
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lovetox
hm no idea, i think you have to comment it out in the code
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lovetox
or maybe whatever build thingy you use, it allows you to ignore failing tests
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luca
Actually the person before me commented out the code already, and I tried removing the patch but it obviously failed. Removing (and cleaning my builddir!!!) fixed it
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luca
Hello world from 1.9.1
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lovetox pushed 1 commits to branch gajim/master other: Tests: Disable failing test - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/8009024fd9d133e8af0b5de7ab2e0290f848c59e
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cal0pteryx
> Hello world from 1.9.1 luca: great :) ↺
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flit
Installed gajim-git from AUR and I'm on 1.9.1 now, hellooo
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Polarian
you should really wait until you get the release within the official repository
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test934284
hey
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test934284
its my first time using gajim
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flit
> you should really wait until you get the release within the official repository Gajim is still on 1.8.7 on Arch. I switched from NixOS which had 1.9.0 and I missed those features. When the update comes to Arch packages I'll switch back ↺
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test934284
do u guys host ur own XMPP and where do u host it on
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flit
I host a Prosody server on a DigitalOcean droplet. Might migrate it to a cheaper VPS at some point though
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test934284
okay nice, im also thinking of buying a vps to host my XMPP server on. im gonna make sure MAM is disabled and using encryption, that would be safe enough right?
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test934284
any other recommendations?
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luca
I host my server under the couch on an overworked raspberry pi 4
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cal0pteryx
test934284: disabling MAM will cause trouble, since then multi-device support might degrade for you
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luca
Why disable MAM and enable encryption? What encryption?
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test934284
> Why disable MAM and enable encryption? What encryption? so from what i understand, if i disable MAM, it wont store/archive the messages right? i don't really want to have messages stored on my XAMPP server ↺
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test934284
and for encryption im not sure, im like a newb when it comes to this
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test934284
i thought whenever u send like a message, it sends it to the XMPP server, so encrypting the message that goes through the XMPP server
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test934284
with gnupg or something idk, need to do research still
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luca
What do you plan to use the server for? How many users and rooms will you be hosting?
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test934284
> What do you plan to use the server for? How many users and rooms will you be hosting? just a group with my friends ↺
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test934284
to communicate about stuff
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test934284
😈
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test934284
jk
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luca
Kinda sounds like IRC would be more appropriate :P
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test934284
> Kinda sounds like IRC would be more appropriate :P imma look into it thanks ↺
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test934284
gajim looks like discord with good features
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test934284
i like it
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luca
I'm half joking
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test934284
> I'm half joking about IRC? ↺
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test934284
well yeah i dont know what it is
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test934284
thought u was serious xd
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luca
IRC is just chat. No saving messages, no attachments, by default no user accounts
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luca
So you don't have to save anything
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luca
IMO the best part of XMPP is the opposite of those things, but you may disagree
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test934284
ah but you can achieve the same with XMPP right?
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test934284
so no saving etc
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test934284
+ i think its more modern and updated from what im reading rn
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luca
Personally I don't see the point, but /shrug
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test934284
> Personally I don't see the point, but /shrug yeah some things need to be kept private ↺
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test934284
xd
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luca
what do you mean?
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luca
Oh I guess omemo is a good reason
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test934284
why do u use XMPP luca
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test934284
and why not discord lets say
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luca
Because it lighter and quicker than matrix, and can be self hosted unlike discord
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luca
If I didn't care about self hosting I would likely be using an existing instance of XMPP or Matrix
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test934284
matrix also looks interesting
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test934284
looks like more functionality
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test934284
gonna set it up rn to test
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test934284
i dont really like that u have to signup like that
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test934284
with ur email and password
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test934284
;c
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test934284
but i think its gonna be the same as when i host XMPP myself right
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test934284
because i need a domain name i think
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test934284
i dont like domain names and registrars that have control over it
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flit
i think the only service that wouldn't require a domain name is irc (feel free to correct me on this)
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luca
At least no decentralized service
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test934284
well i read a little bit more and i think it doesnt really matter anyways that my registrar will have control over it
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test934284
they only can change the DNS, transfer domain etc i think
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test934284
and about SSL/TLS i need to read about it still
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test934284
this shit is so hard
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test934284
for me
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luca
What is hard?
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test934284
to understand all of this
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luca
Well there's plenty of rooms and people that can help explain things in different ways to make it easier to understand
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test934284
im kidding
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test934284
i know exactly what im doing
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test934284
rn im using XMPP
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test934284
for just 1 hour
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test934284
never used it before or read about it
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test934284
rn im reading about what an SSL/TLS issuer actually can control
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test934284
and what the private key etc is for
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test934284
i wanna know everything
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test934284
before i use this and self host it
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resoli
Hello, sorry if this was already mentioned, but 1.9.1 is still not available on flatpak.
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test934284
u dont gotta be sorry
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test934284
love you
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lovetox pushed 1 commits to branch gajim/master cfix: Windows: Work around GLib bug with content type guessing - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/d53a41a18bd90132dc9d989d9a50b069b04f97df
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test934284
common W lovetox
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test934284
el o el
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lovetox
resoli, it takes a while, the build process worked
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but i think they update the site not immediately
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resoli
Thank you lovetox, I'm particularly interested in > * HistorySync: Make full sync option work again
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test934284
hmm i just tried uploading .7z file
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test934284
and it gave me error
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test934284
is this normal?
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test934284
.zip works
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Kris
I have a very odd issue.
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Kris
I installed a GTK app on KDE and suddenly the Gajim (flatpack) refuses to use dark mode
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Kris
it was working before
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Kris
the gtk app in question is Minigalaxy
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Kris
at least that is what I installed when Gajim suddenly switched to light mode and refuses to switch back
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fjklp
> Top 5 Gajim Users on the Windows Store edition This is interesting. I would have guessed Germany to be number 1 or 2 ↺
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Kris
> at least that is what I installed when Gajim suddenly switched to light mode and refuses to switch back uninstalling Minigalaxy allows darkmode in Gajim again ↺
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fjklp
lovetox: do you have any idea what I should look for in the xml when I send a message and gajim shows the returned message as coming from someone else?
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fjklp
I have the xml from one of these cases
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fjklp
These messages do have an occupant-id
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fjklp
I tried testing a different account in the same muc and it didn't produce the same behavior. I can't spot any difference in the xml between the buggy case and normal case.
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lovetox
Yeah send it to me
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wurstsalat pushed 1 commits to branch gajim/master other: Update Gitlab release issue template - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/cddc4d0658945ae196cdbe52a6e5646ca9908ff2