Gajim - 2024-06-16

There is a problem with xmpp that I don't know how to solve? The registered instance of xmpp is closed, how Portable accounts

cretaceousss: I'm not sure what you mean. Sounds like you are saying your xmpp account got closed?

How do you log in to your xmpp instance that you are using, when the server shuts down forever without notification?

if the server is down you cannot log in. What other possibility would you expect?

sounds like you should find a new xmpp service provider

Set up automatic daily Portable accounts requests to other add servers in advance. xmpp server provider is suddenly shut down, just verify the migration key and the accounts are migrated.

Where did the “note” tab in contact window go?

> Where did the “note” tab in contact window go? go to the start chat dialog and type note in the search ↺

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I mean this in 1.8.4.

> I mean this in 1.8.4. I see. I have no idea why or in which commit but it seems it was removed. ✏ ↺

Hello friends, is there a way to select more messages at once without clicking every single line one by one? i want to copy and paste them in a notepad file and currently i have to click every single line. i remember in an earlier version i could just mark all of it with the mouse like on a website but now i can only mark one line

afaik, the only option is to use the 'Select Messages' function

thats unfortunate, especially as this was already available in the past :( is there a chance this could come back?

Mike Yellow, we recently changed the discovery code for that feature

on what software runs your server?

Ejabberd 24.2.0. ✏

yeah seems not to work ..

i need to change the discovery mech again

I wouldn't have guessed that that tab shows up dynamically

I'm logged in into my xmpp account with 3 devices simultaniously: Conversations, Monocles and Gajim 1.8.4. In the first 2 devices I'm offered the phone to initiate a call. But Gajim only offers a audio/video call to others but not to myself. Why?

me3 Gajim's audio calls don't work

By the rate it's asked it feels like this is the most requested feature nowadays :)

cal0pteryx, > Gajim's audio calls don't work But then this option should never be offered.

that's correct

But it _is_ offered to me with at least 3 contacts.

Note, that Jabber A/V calls will be a hot topic at the Berlin XMPP sprint. In fact, that was the initial idea, but people can work on whatever they like. But so far, no Gajim developres are expected. https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Sprints/2024-07_Berlin Maybe there will be some progress for Dino, Kaidan, and Libervia, esp. multi-party calls with SFU.

Great news!

I'm not complaining about Gajim's inability for A/V calls. I'm just irritated by it's different behavior according my own account and accounts of others.

debacle: Kaidan: do they support MUCs by now or plan to do so? Isn't that part of the spec for multi party calls?

me3, i will look into hiding it

wurstsalat pushed 1 commits to branch gajim/master fix: ChatActionProcessor: Make handling selected action more robust - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/79e7f12dfd44744ee52727956331694ab92f8b47

meson No idea, you would need to ask in xmpp:kaidan@muc.kaidan.im?join — at least they *have* a MUC 😀️

https://invent.kde.org/network/kaidan/-/issues/72 > XEP-0045: Multi-User Chat Issue created 7 years ago > Linus Jahn removed priority:wontfix label 1 year ago Well ... it's still open

lovetox pushed 1 commits to branch gajim/master new: Settings: Make PopoverSetting work without binding to a setting - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/949dc524aa5b63c0f414496f71d1378b33cd145d

lovetox pushed 1 commits to branch gajim/master fix: SecurityLabels: Fix merging messages with same security label - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/b52e8dfb9db1b146f139e2899e1830a059029175

hello. Gajim 1.9 on Windows. I hid the menu across the top and cannot seem to figure out how to re-enable it. Please help

Patrick: Ctrl+M

you are a life saver thank!

I'm working on a menu button to improve this situation

(almost done)

Just a short question: If I remember correctly, monocles chat sends Reactions as Reactions and additionally as a fallback, as a citation containing the emoji. Doing so, leads to the behaviour that apps, which do not support reactions still get the reaction (even if it does not look so nice). Would this also be an idea for gajim?

p42ity, I find this to be quite noisy, since there is no aggregation. every reaction adds a new message for legacy clients. this can become really annoying I think

cal0pteryx: Ok, got it. Thanks for the clarification. I would prefer the legacy version but I can fully understand why you choose not to add it. I hope that Conversations adds reaction support soon. It is currently a bit confusing, if someone uses reactions and the user does not recognise that this will be missed.

it is indeed, and I hope so, too :)

p42ity, on Android you can also use Cheogram which is a conversation clone/fork, which has reactions i think

lovetox: Thank you. Yes, this is possible. I am just a bit worried (since Conversation is the most used Android XMPP client, I guess) that people run into this problem and come to the opinion: "XMPP does not work for me". But maybe I am a bit overworried. :-)

i agree its not a pretty situation

i have to say at least in the groupchats i am, i dont see reaction used that often

so maybe worries about the fallback destroying groupchats for legacy clients are overblown

Crash report - https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/d3eab9b8-663d-4c27-b2a6-1b0f90c95c42

concerto, did you recently add or remove accounts?

does it happen with every chat or only a specific one?

> concerto, did you recently add or remove accounts? lovetox: I did not. It seems to happen with certain chats, yes. ↺

ok not great, but great that it happens with you so we can debug this

could you try and look into the database for one of the JIDs where it happens

in the message table, filter for the remote_pk. and then look up where the fk_account_pk points to

hm

or no, ceck the settings db, if in your account settings the "address" key is set

and if not, downgrade the user version to 5

and restart

lovetox: I experienced this myself today, but also because my user version was set to 6 due to one of my MRs ;)

Setting it to 5 fixed it

can anyone help me? is there a way to select more messages at once without clicking every single line one by one? i want to copy and paste them in a notepad file and currently i have to click every single line. i remember in an earlier version i could just mark all of it with the mouse like on a website but now i can only mark one line

Gajim-User14, hover over a message, click on the three dots -> select messages Select what you need, then click the blue button "Copy Text"

lissine, thank you but this only allows to select each line one by one, i need to select a lot of lines daily and clicking each single one is a burden. i hope there is a way to select multiple at once or at least like in a file manager with shift and arrow up key or something

i talk about over 200 lines

Gajim-User14: If you're doing this just for backup purposes, you can simply back up the database. (You can later browse its contents with an sqlite tool)

Gajim-User14, you can export chats in the account settings, if its for backup purposes

if you simply want to copy paste, no there is no better way at the moment

its a drawback of the design which we cannot easily fix, there maybe could be easier ways to select multiple messages, but the general functionality will always make you select messages by clicking or shift clicking

we could implement shift + click to select a bigger area, would this solve your problem?

lovetox, yes this would help a LOT, especially if i could shift and click and then scroll up to mark multiple entries ✏

i added a issue https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/issues/11873

debacle: > Implementing MIX already took a lot of time. Thus, we will work on many other important features first and see what we can do with MUC support later. And after getting this answer they took my voice again. lol

>export chats in the account settings thats a good wokraround, thanks for pointing that out, this allows me to select multiple entires in notepad then! great >i added a issue https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/issues/11873 thanks so much this will be of great help!

> debacle: > > Implementing MIX already took a lot of time. Thus, we will work on many other important features first and see what we can do with MUC support later. > > And after getting this answer they took my voice again. lol I think there should be MIX <-> MUC bridges ↺

the fast support here is exemplary, i will consider donating! thanks and have a good night! 🙂️

lissine: are both fully compatible?

MIX was made so it would be unnoticeable for regular users whether the channel they're in is using MUC or MIX That being said, they don't need to be fully compatible (whatever that means) to bridged. Slidge bridges several IM networks to XMPP, despite them having different architectures and feature sets

what is mix? ✏

> what is mix? https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0369.html ↺

lissine: I see thanks, didn't know about the bridges btw mix and muc.

wurstsalat pushed 1 commits to branch gajim/master fix: VoiceMessageRecorderButton: Honor visibility setting on startup - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/cc22058f11c66655a6fcc363f9b61433635da65c

> lissine: I see thanks, didn't know about the bridges btw mix and muc. I am not aware of any bridges I said someone™ should write some

> I think MIX <-> MUC bridges should be possible Corrected it for you :D