Gajim - 2024-06-13

starting from Gajim 1.9.0, there are strange string in chat instead of "File/Picture" indication as with Gajim 1.8.4

https://im.ebala.net:5821/upload/aukaw_9ku_f53FfkJqo2EWyK/bebf625d-334c-48e6-a692-c60b72969af6.png

well, looks like a disrupted connection also causes gajim go get out of sync

I didn't expect that

messages sent by others are never displayed

Hey I'm new

cybertwice: Hi. This chat is for talking specifically about Gajim.

lovetox pushed 1 commits to branch gajim/master refactor: ArchiveStorage: Improve logging messages - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/f86c7212c34345304bda293a5d235273922720fe

Congratulations for 1.9.0! The emoji reaction seems to be uncrypted in other clients. Is it with me or others too?

yes

Yes, it works very good. Congrats.

> Congratulations for 1.9.0! > The emoji reaction seems to be uncrypted in other clients. Is it with me or others too? oh so reactions basically aren't encrypted? ↺

OMEMO2 `urn:xmpp:omemo:2` ftw. I guess.

Which is currently only supported by libervia and Kaidan.

When reaction on C 😆

is it possible to change your profile image per muc/dm?

no

_new xep when_

probably never, seems not really useful

amogus: you can use multiple accounts

you can already disable your avatar for contacts not in your contact list

if your goal is that people dont see your avatar

managing a avatar per / chat seems very complex for the average user, and providing GUI in a client to do this, and server support .. all very much work, why exactly?

i could, but itd be nice to have different avatars for different people its not _super_ important, but it could be a nice little feature down the road when more important things are added/fixed

because you want to separate different identities? thats why most xmpp clients support multi account

its for the same identity, and while i have zero experience in how programs work exactly, i figure it could be in the muc settings page with a couple buttons and the avatar being used displayed

> i could, but itd be nice to have different avatars for different people > its not _super_ important, but it could be a nice little feature down the road when more important things are added/fixed thats the thing, its not "little", its a very big and complex thing that would need to have a big benefit on the other side, basically some major usecase where using multiple accounts is out of the question ↺

but its not really important, maybe in the future if i get some proper experience i could try setting it up

>> i could, but itd be nice to have different avatars for different people >> its not _super_ important, but it could be a nice little feature down the road when more important things are added/fixed > thats the thing, its not "little", its a very big and complex thing that would need to have a big benefit on the other side, basically some major usecase where using multiple accounts is out of the question i mean yeah itd be a lot of work to have it supported server side, but client side might be easier with some metadata tag that changes someones icon in a specific muc, and if other users support the feature they would see the changed avatar, otherwise itd be the account avatar ↺

> maximus: > oh so reactions basically aren't encrypted? They're unencrypted in Matrix as well. ↺

Smells like whataboutism :D ✏

its not an accident, omemo:1 is not a full stanza encryption and can only encrypt text

the only choice is to deactivate reactions completely while encryption is active

we will work to get omemo:2 in the future

Does omemo:2 need changes in both Clients and server? ✏

How much work would you estimate?

lovetox pushed 1 commits to branch gajim/master fix: HistorySync: Make full sync option work again - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/8b556884bc5488c5d1f8e1ca5cbe85f1b4f994df

ah, this line wrapping thing is terrible

I guess we are waiting on a fix with https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/pango/-/issues/798 but what if they don't fix it?

we could be waiting for years

Hi, when I start Gajim I get this traceback: https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/42215893-a439-4004-a363-892f21aec976

I’m on python-sqlalchemy 1.4.52-4, Gajim 8b556884b, python-nbxmpp 6ccb389. ✏

And it doesn’t start.

did you install gajim

?

because then it would have told you that sqlalchemy > 2.0 is necessary

is there any concern beyond a crash if I enable wrapping on character boundaries? Specifically remote code execution? At this point, it would be far more convenient for me to risk a crash. ✏

its not just a crash, you will not be able to open that chat unless you modify the database

you know the commit, feel free to change the one liner that does it

still worth it

for you maybe, if you have no problem modifying your database, i guess changing that one line in the code should be no problem for you

definitely a bug in new 1.9.0: 1) incoming encrypted message with file from myself (from other device) - in chat preview appears as "aesgcm://blabla" 2) incoming unencrypted message with file from some contact - in chat preview appers as "[img] Image" 3) outbound encrypted message with file to some contact - appears as "[file] File"

https://im.ebala.net:5821/upload/y8Gv-8FmUtWmNOHLw6XyIv9i/Screenshot%20from%202024-06-13%2023-49-40.png

I'm too lazy to fill a regression report, pls someone do >:3

(so the regression is, while we receive encrypted message with file - it appears sas "aesgcm://blah" in oppose of incoming unencrypted/outgoing encrypted message which works normally - in gajim 1.8.4 preview for incoming encrypted was worked fine too) ✏

> for you maybe, if you have no problem modifying your database, i guess changing that one line in the code should be no problem for you yes, that is why I was asking ↺

but for modifying the message database, the option also exists to use a different client

how will a different client help?

lovetox pushed 1 commits to branch gajim/master fix: Migration: Don’t fail on invalid JIDs - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/cc1b0f041f2a86874c3e34fae8911d92a7338c17

Oh, right. I was mixing up the problem of deleting the message from the mam and the gajim database. A different client would be used to delete the message from mam (if I'm a moderator of the chat). I'd still need to manually edit the gajim database. ✏

Why was jid changed to remote_jid in the PGP plugin? Does it make sense as the jid property is still present?

yes, the jid property is the full jid as it is in the xml stanza

remote_jid depends on other attributes like the message type

for example for a groupchat message, remote_jid will be the bare jid

for a PM the remote_jid will be a full jid

remote_jid exists so you dont have to think in what context you currently are, and what the correct jid is to address the contact

groupchat / normal chat / or pm

Hello, Gajim! I have a bug to report. Some MUCs only allow members to write and one has to contact the admin of the MUC, so he can elevate ones membership level. Gajim seems to have a little button, that – I assume – should automate that in the background. But unfortunately this button currently seems to do nothing.

lovetox: so these differences don't matter if only chat type is handled and not MUC/PM, got it.

bodqhrohro, it always matters i guess if you do something with that jid, for example store it somewhere

if you receive a message in 1:1, the Jid will always have a resource, but this resource can change anytime

and you need to ask yourself, do i need this differences, do i care from which resource a message came

or do i only care about the unique remote contact im talking to

lovetox: and remote_jid for chats is always bare?

correct

Okay then.

you can look up the code for remote_jid in nbxmpp, then its maybe clearer