Gajim - 2024-06-06

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real?

I thought I'd try out the Flatpak version of Gajim. I was previously using gajim-nightly so I thought I could retain the existing configuration and databases. But when I start Gajim I get this error -

flatpak run org.gajim.Gajim https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/b01eec80-58a1-458c-9e3a-36cf2d2111eb

(FWIW, because of space issues my Gajim database directory `~/.local/share/gajim` is a symlink to another directory.)

Is this a version incompatibility or is there a way to make the Flatpak version work with the existing databases?

ong: > real? No one can prevent me from sending plaintext, and patching clients which don't allow it by default (including proprietary ones), so secure messengers just cannot exist by that definition. ↺

so real for this

ong: > so real for this Reality is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analog_hole ↺

wymmm

may I suggest a feature? it would be cool to be able to find out the media/files exchanged with a specific contact, perhaps with the creation of different folders per each contact... however I can see it's difficult to implement because it might probably be not backward compatible.. what do you think?

maximus: see issue 11285

Hi

> not sure where that comes from. I'm building the installer using mingw64 Me too, I can try it again in the evening today.

ong: I mean that imposing digital restrictions, like mandatory encryption, remote message deletion, or whatever, cannot be guaranteed in reality in any circumstances. Anything that does not break laws of physics is possible (and even their unbreakability needs to be proven, we don't know completely yet how nature works). BTW, are you aware that the P≠NP hypothesis is still not proven, and thus you cannot be sure that any asymmetric cryptography is secure? (And given the statement in the previous paragraph, I wouldn't trust quantum cryptography as well.)

bodqhrohro: Churchill Hyopthesis isn't proven either and hopefully wrong. :P

ye uniform guarantees and not being able to put ur messenger on an intranet takes the messenging out of messenger not to mention the foss alternative for signal drains ur battery because of its notification implementation

Hey everybody: just started to try biboumi and do not find how to send [ad-hoc commands](https://doc.biboumi.louiz.org/9.0/user.html#ad-hoc-commands). Can anybody point me in the right direction? I'm using gajim 1.7.3.

try the discover tab on your top drop-down menu and execute

xmpp:#channel%irc.network@<your.gateway.domain>?join

and can also execute using the 3 dots icon in the top right for the irc server main connection thing

> try the discover tab on your top drop-down menu and execute O.k. I found that. 'execute' is 'Command' in my client. When I open the window "browsing domain using account" metronome is pre-selected. If I click on 'command' the commands for biboumi are missing.

> meson: > bodqhrohro: Churchill Hyopthesis isn't proven either and hopefully wrong. :P Which one? About democracy? ↺

Did I write Churchill? 😂 🙈 I meant extended Church-Turing.

chris: you need to use the discovery dialog

gajim nightly flatpak does not let me paste an image into the text input box, but it worked on the packaged stable. maybe it's because of flatpak?

ah yes, I enabled user files it flatseal and now it works

can I disable the room topic showing up on every re-join?

yep. found it

is there a way to set custom gajim gtk3 theme on windows?

yes, the install folder has the same setup as on linux

there is a gtk3 config file, and you can place a gtk theme in a folder and link with the settings file

ooooo

ty gamer

> gajim nightly flatpak does not let me paste an image into the text input box, but it worked on the packaged stable. maybe it's because of flatpak? I ran into this problem before too. I never figured it out. After I updated to the next nightly flatpak it just started working again. I do not have any filesystem exceptions set in flatseal for my home directory. ↺

After hard coding the abs path to Python.h in the include statememt Gajim portable finally builds.

.. almost

Strange. Did you run the msys initial setup, lile described in gajims wiki? It works out of the box for me

cal0pteryx: the gajim.exe doesn't start, in cmd there's no log, it simply terminates. Gajim-debug.exe complains about a missing dll. I'm given it up slowly. I strictly followed the manual.

which missing dll?

How big are your executables? Here both .exe have 375 kB ✏

One moment, I emptied the build folder and let it build again.

if you want to fiddle with an installed version, just take the nightly and swap .pyc files by .py files, I confirmed yesterday that this indeed works :)

portable nightly from here: https://gajim.org/downloads/snap/win/

Alright, I will use this instead

Ah wait

gajim's files reside in Gajim\lib\python3.11\site-packages\gajim

Now it works. What the heck!

and can reproduce the issue.

That means I don't need to recompile

yay!

Fun: In the "Debug Console", it looks like I can filter presence and stream management, but the switches don't seem to have any effect. Therefore, I switched off my active accounts and switched on only one test account for debugging. But that was a bad idea, because now all contacts and MUCs moved to the default workspace, while my other workspaces are empty, haha! Also, nothing is pinned anymore.

I guess, the best solution would be to store workspaces and pinning indication on the server...

cal0pteryx: `set GST_DEBUG=3` `gajim-debug.exe ` Of you stop the audio it will tell you that the .part.1 cannot.ne found and it prints the problematic path without any slashes and such. Mhmm

meson, can you post an example path?

would be nice if it's actually _just_ a path conversion issue :)

Like C:UsersMyName~1AppDataLocalTempgajim-4charsvoice-message-date.m4a.part.1

debacle, I implemented https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/merge_requests/913 for that :)

cal0pteryx Can that be merged at some point? Maybe after 1.9.0?

:D I'd like it to, yes

I'll rebase it, so it's a lower hanging fruit ;)

cal0pteryx One year old, rebasing might be non-trivial...

or debacle you learn the one liner that starts a separate instance of gajim, with which you can test

gajim -p test -c ~/gajimtest

I need to start doing that

> cal0pteryx One year old, rebasing might be non-trivial... works fine after a year of hibernating :D ↺

meson, try converting the path to double slashes

or something along this scheme: `file:///C:/gstreamer/test`

> try converting the path to double slashes Tried it: negative > or something along this scheme: `file:///C:/gstreamer/test` Can test that tomorrow Must have sth to do.how gstreamer parse_command works

For the part files ai create objects and set the location as a property

meson, relevant code: https://github.com/Kurento/gstreamer/blob/master/plugins/elements/gstfilesink.c#L299

Isn't it already UTF8?

yes

but it shows you there is no conversion of any kind for windows

windows paths look different from linux paths

Strange that it works though when running from source. Comparing the debug output for both cases would be interesting

i mean it could also just be the debug print function that strips the slashes

True

Let's compare the location string used in win/source, win/portable install, linux/source

You sound motivated :D I feel sleepy. See you tomorrow with more energy again!

Yeah no, not tonight :D

I was kind of surprised ;)

> gajim -p test -c ~/gajimtest That's certainly a good workaround! Still, at some point, it would be good, if Gajim workspaces on my PCs (at home and at work) would be synchronized via PEP. Which would also solve the other issue. ✏ ↺