Gajim - 2024-06-03

How is gajim testing whether to show an audio player for a file upload? It seems it isn't showing an audio player for ogg vorbis files.

Why does the text fallback in replies not mention the member whose message is replied? Is that intended? How are users of legacy clients which don't support replies supposed to know their message is replied?

bodqhrohro: legacy clients get the same experience as with xep-0393 quotes

fjklp: you can check for yourself in the logs. It should log the mime type there. Make sure your server actually sends mime types correctly

bodqhrohro FWIW, slidge includes the quoted author in the fallback text, and Monal author+timestamp. I also think it’s better but I think it poses translatability issues. Nothing the replies XEP forbids you from including such stuff in the fallback text.

Well Monal does not support XEP-0461, but when you quote, it includes author+timestamp in the quote.

I think including the nick might be sensible. Timestamps are nice but a user might not want to reveal their timezone.

It might make sense to have gajim use UTC or some user set timezone option and to include the timezone offset in the time if this was done.

I think I remember seeing a PR for Conversations that did this (prepend "nickname:" to the quote) but it was rejected. Anyway, XEP-0461 is a much finer way to solve that.

Or we leave legacy clients to what they are: legacy

> cal0pteryx: > Or we leave legacy clients to what they are: legacy I think the benefit of this style ☝️ is that you "ping" the quoted message author in basically all existing clients. I don't see any downside to this and I actually really wanted to be pinged on mobile in my rooms with "notify only on mention" setting when I'm replied to. I don't regret my choice of implementing it this way in slidge since neither Conversations nor Gajim (the 2 clients I use the most by far) still haven't released XEP-0461 support. I'm not complaining, but just arguing that - prepending the nick is very useful - when it's so cheap to improve UX for legacy clients, it is worth considering - we don't have an army of client devs, so features take quite a while to actually be released

99% of the time I quote someone, I also prepend my response with their nicks, eg: > Or we leave legacy clients to what they are: legacy cal0pteryx: now you're pinged. Anyway, I should just submit a merge request if this annoys me too much ;) ✏

> 99% of the time I quote someone, I also prepend my response with their nicks, eg: > > Or we leave legacy clients to what they are: legacy > cal0pteryx: now you're pinged. > Anyway, I should just submit a merge request if this annoys me too much ;) This is something I do to. I really don't see a downside. When I reply to someone, I probably intend to ping them. ↺

> It might make sense to have gajim use UTC or some user set timezone option and to include the timezone offset in the time if this was done. fjklp: UTC only for privacy; any local timezone offset should probably be handled by the receiving client

nicoco, you've really been going crazy with the merge requests. I respect it.

yeah, UTC makes sense for multiple reasons. It's just neutral.

There is no deeper reason, we simply never included the nick in quotes

Quote with no ping is just dumb ✏

> ‎03/06/24 | 08:35:30 ‎cal0pteryx‎: bodqhrohro: legacy clients get the same experience as with xep-0393 quotes Well, I had same complaints about that builtin "quote" feature too. But it was easier to circumvent its limitations manually. (Not like I can't explicitly mention the replied message author too though.)

Hello , how can i transfer my user data folder in a gajim flatpak install ?

Kevin, https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/blob/master/flatpak/README.md#migrate-your-data

Thanks

I had a portable install though

So no separate config directory

Ok so i think i should leave the config folder and just paste the contents of user data into data folder

So i copied but no luck

Maybe i start gajim fresh

ohh i did not import my backup but still encrypted chats got decrypted 🤔️

i might somehow got access to the omemo keys folder

How do I change keyboard shortcuts in Gajim? (Without touching the source code, if possible.)

So… latest conversations lost the ability to avoid honoring the bookmark autojoin flag for MUCs… lovetox: how would you feel about an advanced setting in gajim to use a custom bookmark extension instead of the autojoin flag, or maybe simpler: just not respect the autojoin flag and join all rooms which are not "closed" in the UI?

In any case, the current behaviour is a bit inconsistent, the only way to get to that "you have left the group but its tab is still opened in gajim" state is to leave from another client, right? That's kindof weird.

yaaxu: check out our wiki

Don't have the link at hand I'm on the phone

yaaxu, https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/wikis/help/Keyboard-Shortcuts

> So… latest conversations lost the ability to avoid honoring the bookmark autojoin flag for MUCs… lovetox: how would you feel about an advanced setting in gajim to use a custom bookmark extension instead of the autojoin flag, or maybe simpler: just not respect the autojoin flag and join all rooms which are not "closed" in the UI? oh well, looks like you would be on board since you opened this 4 years ago <https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/issues/10078> ↺

nicoco: if it's about what is described in the issue, yes. No clue why we should use a custom bookmark extension ✏

Yeah, a custom bookmark extension is probably not needed, just allowing to not honour the autojoin flag is probably enough.

A custom extension would make sense if we wanted to keep the current behaviour, ie having some groupchat tabs open on startup but not joined by gajim until you click "join"

(I don't have any use for that)

wurstsalat pushed 1 commits to branch gajim/master imprv: Menus: Rename 'Modify Accounts' to 'Manage Accounts' - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/ad2c9f6f4963ebace518ff6b6c6cecd2d9eb6d6b

meson, i cannot merge your MR because of conflicts

we should talk about your workflow, it seems you use merge to merge code in master into your branch

you should simply use git pull --rebase, which puts your commits ontop of HEAD

but i think now its to late

i think you have to merge the current master in again

Oh, sorry, I'm not at home right now and can first do it tomorrow

Maybe squashing helps

Squash, rebase, merge

Will try tonite if I get home early enough

https://files.yowoy.cwnp.cn/upload/dde1b503-3070-45ca-becb-01068cbf5aef/crashinggajim.txt

this effective power txt meme still crashes gajim tfw

im no gnome 46

on wayland

yeah thanks, for me too

i will open a bug report

ty gamer

oh boy, lol

if you paste that in a chat, you will not be able to open the chat without manually editing the message out of your database

it crashes for me on X11

sover

https://files.yowoy.cwnp.cn/upload/7413b4f1-b34e-4e6d-b14b-b7ce6a27d9da/ec5909b8-c9b2-4654-b16a-428996def507.png

2 chat app bugs for me in one day lol

we grinding

https://files.yowoy.cwnp.cn/upload/a2326db6-465d-4a76-afd7-241fccff4886/meme.txt

org.gajim.Gajim.Devel.desktop[213288]: ** org.gajim.Gajim.Devel.desktop[213288]: Pango:ERROR:../pango/pango-layout.c:4566:process_line: assertion failed: (result == BREAK_SOME_FIT || result == BREAK_EMPTY_FIT) org.gajim.Gajim.Devel.desktop[213288]: Bail out! Pango:ERROR:../pango/pango-layout.c:4566:process_line: assertion failed: (result == BREAK_SOME_FIT || result == BREAK_EMPTY_FIT) org.gajim.Gajim.Devel.desktop[213287]: /app/bin/gajim-devel: line 2: 3 Aborted (core dumped) gajim --gapplication-app-id=org.gajim.Gajim.Devel "$@"

its the pango line wrap functionality that breaks

wurstsalat pushed 1 commits to branch gajim/master cfix: Reactions: Improve action visibility/state toggling - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/c229ed1a2404c6880e0279773ee6af4e754efba4

lovetox pushed 1 commits to branch gajim/master fix: MessageLabel: Prevent potential segfault - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/571f012784fc898e0e780db2aa1114569e014111

Hmm, I wonder what the cases are where wrapping at character boundaries makes sense

if you send a long word?

wait, might this char versus word mode play into that whole problem with spam with long lines slowing down gajm a lot?

lovetox, meson: Thank you! Let's say it comes quite close to changing the source code. 😉️ Plus, I have a sneaking suspicion that the shortcut overview won't match my new assignments. The table is already wrong since I changed the sending command to Ctrl-Enter. Perhaps I'm too spoiled by KDE…