Gajim - 2024-06-01

hello

hello

kashifshah: hello, how may I assist you today?

just saying hi and testing out a client on ios - it locked up while loading all the old messages

i’m surprised that the message finally made it through :)

I got "hello" twice

about to spin up a new linux box and will be installing gajim again soon

yeah, i thought the first one had failed

sorry about that

> about to spin up a new linux box and will be installing gajim again soon nice ↺

yeah, sadly i needed to install windows for a while after having gotten everything set up on mx linux

sad indeed

lovetox pushed 1 commits to branch gajim/master fix: Jingle: Fix IBB fallback - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/f36b56c984a9b34f3447f5f6333db3cfeaafb9b0

ic_, debian nightly should be available now

Thanks, now installed

ic_ lovetox__ Oh, I see. Yes, previously it has been necessary to add the "experimental" line to sources.list, both for building the package and also for actually installing it.

I hope, sqlalchemy can migrate to testing soon. So far, it looks like there were errors with various packages using sqlalchemy. Not with gajim, of course :-)

Can I programmatically trigger full UI repaint in Gajim?

Refreshing member lists and all that stuff.

You need to look if you can do this I'm gtk

Gajim does not paint anything

cal0pteryx: can you later today test again on Windows? :)

meson, I would, but there are currently unresolved issues with MSYS packages for GTK, which prevent me fron starting gajim at all

Then I better do not invoke pacman -Syu in msys as it's working there for me right now. Just the binary build script fails

meson, yes

Would it work if I sent you my msys folder zipped?

meson, nah, I'd rather figure out how to downgrade the package which triggers that error ;) we need that anyways for making a release

🙈that would be surely the better option

meson, you are using opus/ogg? ✏

About the shortcut reactions, I don’t agree that they clutter the UI, although it is a bit inconsistent when there is already a reaction, that you can access the emoji picker next to them or in this ‘hover-menu’. I don’t have any suggestions though and it’s not really an issue.

meson, I'm curious, what is the scenario where you are muxing multiple audio streams?

fjklp: opus + mp4 in the moment

BUT I 100% agree with debacle that I’d like to customise those 3 reactions. I personally prefer ❤‍🔥 or 💞 for instance, and to just mean ‘ack’ I like to use something more random, like 🗿. Anyway my personal choices don’t matter, but the point is, making this a (possibly ‘advanced’) setting would be very nice IMHO.

I seem to remember concluding that mp4 supports a lot of different metadata and liked that about it

people say mkv is the future

and if the advanced setting allows setting it to no shortcuts, everyone wins. I wonder if it should have a limit on max number.

lovetox: queue_draw does nothing. Seems like some caching is involved there. They don't refresh when I just switch chats, so I wouldn't suspect GTK+ is at guilt there anyway.

> I'm curious, what is the scenario where you are muxing multiple audio streams? After each recording pause currently a new file is created. On stopping all files are demuxed, decoded, concatenated, encoded and muxed together. Not the best design but good enuff for the moment. ✏

I see

Plan is to do it all in memory later

Okay, I can loop over all contacts on all accounts and notify them with `avatar-update` event, now how do I do the same with MUC members?

bodqhrohro: maybe tell us first what your problem is? you're asking very specific stuff without confirming that the way you choose is the correct one

cal0pteryx: update all avatars, as you could guess?

Including those in MUC member list, chat history view, and those with a letter instead of avatar too.

This way, only contact avatars are updated, even though through all the app, which is great.

Even in places where I couldn't expect them to, lol.

meson: I fixed my MSYS install. Could test later ;)

bodqhrohro: a clear problem statement would be: "I see avatars in a group chat participants list are not updated, even though they should". I guess this is the problem you're trying to tackle?

cal0pteryx: no.

I'm just writing yet another plugin messing with Gajim's internals.

Lol, why do contacts have is_irc property? ✏

bodqhrohro: good luck then

Hehe.

> meson: I fixed my MSYS install. Could test later ;) Perfect, I will push once I have the time to fixed the last little issue I found

*fix elfchen: do you think you could later test a MR on MacOS? :) ✏

meson: I haven't been able to run Gajim for months. Something seems to be broken with one of the GTK packages. Not sure if it's just me or a general Homebrew thing. 😒 I can try a bit of debugging on Monday but haven't been able to find a fix so far.

That's sad to hear. Aren't here more Homebrew users? Would be great if you can fix it, good luck anyway!

meson, basically anyone who has a multi-user system on macos can't use homebrew due to the way it does permissions on /usr/local by default. it's the main reason i use macports lol

also using system libraries in a bad idea in certain cases

elfchen: could you share the issue you're having? I think you did that some time ago already

cal0pteryx: Can do on Monday.

hi mate am new here

Would be great to have an indicator saying "New messages received" and jumping to the first new message received

epic: yes, there is a merge request for that (needs some adaption after upstream changes though) https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/merge_requests/960

Nice. Might spend this weekend reading merge requests n other interesting features

If anyone interested: https://dev.narayana.im/narayana/gajim-avatarshapeplugin https://dev.narayana.im/narayana/gajim-avatarshapeplugin/releases/download/0.0.1/gajim-avatarshapeplugin.zip

cal0pteryx: thanks for good wishing.

The known issue is that it does not dynamically refresh shapes in chat history, though it's easily relieved by switching chats back and forth, so I don't find it crucial to mess with that.

bodqhrohro: nice :)

wurstsalat pushed 1 commits to branch gajim/master ci: Windows: Temporarily downgrade gobject-introspection - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/ec4c68b38a4107775cd2e2332bda734db767ed5f

wurstsalat pushed 1 commits to branch gajim/master fix: Preview: Catch permissions related exceptions when trying to save as - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/9e861b2f3aab2976a2dbe5cefcf2db149f9b4388

wurstsalat pushed 1 commits to branch gajim/master other: PluginManager: Add more logging infos for skipped plugins - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/7a7075c7da52bef586f2b5df0d902825f329bca8

bodqhrohro: I have sent you an e-mail, can you look your mailbox?

lovetox pushed 1 commits to branch gajim/master refactor: Remove obsolete Delimiter module - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/0cf17f1d0d69ab6865771b781aa825a0513243f4

cal0pteryx: You may test now

Funny that unplugging the speaker while playing back actually crashed Gajim for me on Windows, but no one had yet complained.

Try to unplug/plugin or take away/give access to the mic or speaker in any scenario :) Hopefully it won't crash anymore

crash? a segfault?

or do you mean Gajim raises an unhandled exception

The latter or it would just hang.

If the MR is too late for 1.9.0 as I assume I could try to backport this fix and another performance boost for the visualization. Accidentally it's rendered too often.

lovetox pushed 1 commits to branch gajim/master imprv: Preferences: Relax preconditions for audio settings - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/45a9748bcd720fc6b71673bd13a053b710723ee3

wurstsalat pushed 2 commits to branch python-nbxmpp/master chore: DOAP: Update XEP-0425 and XEP-0461 versions - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/python-nbxmpp/-/commit/cecf4b1d73e60b2eeed9f579e9b8b80027917780 chore: DOAP: Add XEP-0317: Hats - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/python-nbxmpp/-/commit/01364cf38a3d57ceacef6937a7300ce5e0c67939

> yeah, sadly i needed to install windows for a while after having gotten everything set up on mx linux dont forget to backup your home directory