Gajim - 2024-05-14

Hi

hii

hi 有人会说中文吗

mirrornull: this is english only chat

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potato: I understand

> our company paid the developers for that feature and as I see it is ready and working ann: if you followed the recent discussion about both MRs you'll notice the neither is ready. Please stop pushing ↺

我想知道一个问题 我如何使用tor去登录twitter?(X.com) 或者说 我应该如何使用一个绝对匿名安全的X账号？"I have a question: How do I use Tor to log into Twitter (X.com)? Or rather, how should I use a completely anonymous and secure X account?"

This is neither a channel about Tor nor a channel about Twitter/X...

说英语放粉红

lbiqc: this chat's language is english

Ok

Gajim is a good software

what's up with so much non-english spam

Some Chinese came to XMPP for secure anti-government communication, but they are unordered and unorganized cowards after all. They may bring many technical questions into English chat environment and even so their fear will never relieve. Also they bring many political topics. So, I suggest, do not hesitate to ban them. Rules are rules, general unwritten rules are also rules. Offtopics should not be tolerated.

1. Does anyone know if an issue was ever created for the bug where having multiple accounts in gajim joined to the same chat can sometimes cause one of the accounts to not receive a message? I can't find it. 2. Is this bug expected to still exist with the new database? ✏

1. Does anyone know if an issue was ever created for the bug where having multiple accounts in gajim joined to the same chat can sometimes cause one of the accounts to not receive a message sent in that chat? I can't find it. 2. Is this bug expected to still exist with the new database? ✏

This should be fixed

ok

I think middle clicking on a message to reply would be a nice speed improvement. What do you guys think? AFAIK this wouldn't conflict with anything else.

I actually love the idea

fjklp: did you try current nightly? Replies are now a single click already

yes, and I think that's nice, but I think the ability to middle click anywhere on the message would be significantly easier and faster.

it's ultra efficient

I think it would be appropriate to also have the reply button while having more advanced/faster/less discoverable methods

Middle click does other things depending on your OS

Normally middle click closes stuff. Also it's a clipboard pasting method

But we can add shortcuts to cycle through replies

>Normally middle click closes stuff. Also it's a clipboard pasting method ... For a clipboard that isn't even 100% synchronized with ctrl+c/ctrl+v Xorg is just so full of idiosyncrasies lol. Imho using middle click like suggested is ok even on xorg, since no one would try to "paste" into someone elses message.

If anyone knows of a case where middle click would actually conflict, let me know. Otherwise, I don't see a problem.

As said before it's already single click

Yes, but the two are not equivalent. Middle clicking anywhere on the message means that 1. far less precision is required as the target area is much bigger, 2. the mouse pointer is likely far closer the the target area with middle click so less pointer travel is required

maybe that even makes it qualify as an accessibility feature :)

3. as the reply button will be at the right side and possibly offset from the text, that often means that there is some coordination effort/time to see that the correct message is highlighted as you are about to press the button

I don't know, it just seems totally obvious to me that it would be desirable but if it's a matter of limited time, I understand

a precedent example: firefox tabs have a close button but you can also middle click anywhere on the tab to close.

> a precedent example: firefox tabs have a close button but you can also middle click anywhere on the tab to close. This. I never use the actual close button. ↺

And replies (could be) a very frequent action. The easier it is, the more likely I am to use it. Less easy, less likely. Middle click makes it near effortless. ✏

i already can see it, every message from you will contain a reply

lol

now I'm going to worry about overusing them

sorry but question: does latest version of Gajim supports native XMPP replies, as Conversations and Dino does?

yes, well nightly. It's not in a release yet. ✏

ann, yes and we also work on reactions, then we will make a release

Conversations doesn't support native replies yet though

But forks do

lovetox, do you have plans to merge modern VoIP support with one of next releases?

hi. I'm using the flatpak installation and while on the images in the flathub I can see the plugins window being enabled, mine is disabled. is that because I use flatpak, or does flatpak support installing plugins and should I look at other causes?

ann, i merge it when its ready, you can follow the discussions on our GitLab.

erik, flatpak only supports 2 encryption related plugins currently

so you would need a non-flatpak version if you want to try out plugins

ok. thanks. I was hoping to use the whiteboard plugin. quite content with the way MS Whiteboard works and wanted to check if I can get the same with Gajim.

similar, really.

no problem. I'll be happy with the flatpak version and not be demanding.

thanks for the quick response!

Any reports of success getting SMS 2FA (god I hate these) from Wise?

I swear I've gotten one in the past but today I had to opt for a phone call instead.

Oooh, nice, Wise lets me use TOTP 2FA instead.

erik, im not sure where you are getting your info from, but that plugin is not distributed anymore for a long time

jordigh, i think you are in the wrong channel

Oh, I am indeed. Hah. I got confused by the Gajim interface.

lovetox, from memory. I haven't looked at the extension list for a long time.

so, it may well be that I'm using old information.

lovetox pushed 1 commits to branch python-nbxmpp/master feat: Parse XEP-0172 nickname in MUC presences - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/python-nbxmpp/-/commit/cc9d644a4102044ef88b2a3dcbb716fa37bfce3f

https://xmpp-uploads.autistici.org/upload/3f2bb76b-5cdf-47cd-b9a8-876db0351931/02ecbd95-2907-40b4-9e89-584db78ec6af.png

is this an issue on my end (themes), or is width 1080 not really supported? Note the content panel having no left margin

and no user avatars (they were to the left, and by default the rightmost part of the text is invisible)

looks weird

on what version are you?

does it change if you make the window wider?

you can also click CTRL + R to hide the chatlist

Someone has sent me the following issue: https://gitlab.archlinux.org/archlinux/packaging/packages/gajim/-/issues/2 Any ideas what could be causing this? (seen as you guys would know the most about the codebase)

Where do I hook up to make a request to the server when gajim starts? Just nbxmpp BaseModule.__init__?

> Someone has sent me the following issue: > > https://gitlab.archlinux.org/archlinux/packaging/packages/gajim/-/issues/2 > > Any ideas what could be causing this? (seen as you guys would know the most about the codebase) I think this is an edge case... someone destroyed their config which causes gajim to segfault ↺