Gajim - 2024-04-14


  1. fjklp

    my gajim nightly is still on 20240410-1. Have there been any newer nightly releases? I don't know if there is insight on this in gitlab but I didn't see it.

  2. lovetox

    we cannot build debian packages right now

  3. lovetox

    because sqlalchemy, a new dependency is not in debian unstable

  4. lovetox

    you can use flatpak

  5. jstein

    Hi do I understand https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/issues/11633 correct, that there is no MAM support in Gajim right now, but it is planned as enhancement in future?

  6. lovetox

    No, it simply says you get no notification

  7. jstein

    OK I see. Right now I am debugging, why I do not see the MUC messages in Gajim from the time when I was logged out for a day.

  8. lovetox

    maybe its a public chat and you set the sync threshold below to only 1 day?

  9. jstein

    lovetox, thank you very much. I am walking through the channels and indeed first hits were all public MUC with 1 day sync. Reconfiguring now.

  10. jstein

    When I click on

  11. jstein

    https://upload.jabber.hot-chilli.net:5281/file_share/21af2d97-1f96-4349-b7e1-b541a02ab9ff/Selection_053.png

  12. jstein

    in gajim-1.8.4, it opens vlc here.

  13. cal0pteryx

    jstein, see https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/wikis/help/gajimfaq#gajim-opens-folderfiles-with-the-wrong-application-linux

  14. jstein

    cal0pteryx, thank you. Which exact mimetype should I look for?

  15. jstein

    perhaps we missed a .desktop file of Gajim in our package...

  16. cal0pteryx

    for folders it's something like inode

  17. jstein

    found it inode/directory

  18. jstein

    could you add "inode/directory" to the https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/wikis/help/gajimfaq#gajim-opens-folderfiles-with-the-wrong-application-linux page? I will debug our package now.

  19. cal0pteryx

    jstein, added

  20. jstein

    thank you

  21. ic_

    > we cannot build debian packages right now because sqlalchemy, a new dependency is not in debian unstable

  22. ic_

    sqlalchemy 1.4.50 is in Debian unstable do you mean version 2.0

  23. lovetox

    yes

  24. rom1dep

    lovetox: is gajim still logging slow SQL queries?

  25. rom1dep

    because I seem to have encountered not a single one with the new db code

  26. rom1dep

    moving between rooms with large histories seem to be snappier, too

  27. lovetox

    yes but we dont print it only if you enable it with `-l gajim.c.storage=DEBUG`

  28. lovetox

    yes but we print it only if you enable it with `-l gajim.c.storage=DEBUG`

  29. lovetox

    you probably ask if we print it if it goes over a certain threshold

  30. lovetox

    no currently not

  31. rom1dep

    ah, ok

  32. bot

    lovetox pushed 1 commits to branch gajim/master refactor: Builder: Use xpath to find translatable elements - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/637ef759490a84f01284d7a00de5a104a9c577cd

  33. jstein

    in Conversations I can get the QR Code for all devices by long tapping on the user avatar. Is there a similar function in Gajim? I saw only a way to get a QR Code for a single device in the user information.

  34. lovetox

    QR code for what?

  35. lovetox

    the omemo fingerprint of this device?

  36. lovetox

    of course we only show one for this device, why would you need others?

  37. jstein

    lovetox, the QR Code to share a contact.

  38. jstein

    say A, B , C are friends and C is new to XMPP. B can show the QR Code of C to A

  39. jstein

    Then A has the username with the fingerprints of C from a trusted person

  40. lovetox

    No we don't have that

  41. lovetox

    I don't think we need that

  42. lovetox

    We have blind trust

  43. fjklp

    Would a flatpak install import messages from a dpkg install?

  44. me3

    Can I open multiple windows simultaneously, each with a different chat?

  45. lovetox

    me3, no

  46. lovetox

    fjklp, no, we have a migration article on our wiki

  47. me3

    Multiple windows could be useful for managing larger projects with different teams involved.

  48. rom1dep

    Being able to pop out message windows would be such a productivity boost here

  49. rom1dep

    Especially given gajim's inability to retain scrollback position (on top of the absence of a "last read" marker)

  50. bot

    lovetox pushed 1 commits to branch gajim/master feat: Hide/show main menu bar - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/de8b2246fe3509f8929954eb2ae3e7b4f9e6d423

  51. meson

    ^ thanks, that's useful. Wouldn't it make sense to show a Hamburger menu in case it's hidden?

  52. lovetox

    then we could spare the bar altogether ..

  53. lovetox

    bar is good, can be accessed via keyboard shortcuts

  54. meson

    I mean that's how the UI in KDE apps work at least: either menu bar OR Hamburger menu.

  55. lovetox

    yes we have a bar

  56. Polarian

    does gajim show up to xmpp events?

  57. Polarian

    or fosdem?

  58. rom1dep

    nice and clean without menu bar :) but agreed there should be a discoverable way to make it re-appear when hidden (purposely or not)

  59. lovetox

    Polarian, sometimes a developer joins an event

  60. lovetox

    would not say that this means "Gajim shows up"

  61. cal0pteryx

    I was at fosdem this year for example

  62. cal0pteryx

    And xmpp summit, of course

  63. Polarian

    > would not say that this means "Gajim shows up" hmm

  64. Polarian

    well I know Openfire had a stand :)

  65. Polarian

    they had stickers too... I wish I went :(

  66. jstein

    I hope that we will have nice XMPP contributions at the Froscon (Germany) this year. https://froscon.org/

  67. Polarian

    > I hope that we will have nice XMPP contributions at the Froscon (Germany) this year. https://froscon.org/ how does it differ from fosdem?