Gajim - 2024-04-11

how do i join a transport to my roster?

it shows up as "groupchat" in service discovery, but i can not join it

Rebeld: I also don't use a DE (well, i3wm). When one does that, one has to expect to need to fiddle with configuration for apps to behave as they want. What does `xdg-mime query default image/jpeg` reports?

can Gajim be configured to autoplay attached gifs?

Is this broken? There's an issue to have them to play by click instead: https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/issues/10708

Morbid: not at the moment. There is afix available, but I would like to avoid auto playing gifs

Ah, alright. Trying to get some people to give XMPP & Gajim a try, but there's some pondering regarding feature parity (compared to Signal desktop for instance). Personally I don't mind this missing all that much.

Morbid: Except for A/V Calls, GIFs, Reactions and Quotes, which is being worked on, are there any other additional features only Signal Desktop offers, which are useful?

Not that I can think of. Maybe stickers, but I wouldn't put it up there in the useful category :)

is it now possible to register without telephone number with singal?

> is it now possible to register without telephone number with singal? I remember it beeing an option on beta, not sure if it works on the latest versions

Does anyone know how to join a transport to the roster?

it wrongly shows as a groupchat but i can not join it

is gajim aware of the concept of XMPP transports?

lol trying to join it as a contact makes gajim crash

> is it now possible to register without telephone number with singal? IIRC you still need phone numbers for registration, but you can opt out of being discovered via your phone number and use a nickname as your peers-visible identifier

is it possible to edit the roster manually somehow? apparently its not possible to join a transport with gajim to it

de-facto, about what transport are you talking

its a biboumi irc bridge on my prosody server

so you want to join a groupchat

yes i already joined some groupchats on that transport component (irc channels), but i want the transport itself to show up in the roster a stransport so i can perform ad-hoc commands on it

btw the transport shows up as a groupchat in service discovery

thats because biboumi advertises it that way (wrongly)

type the address in the service disocvery window

and then you can execute adhoc commands with the button

works for me, for both the component, and the irc server

and yes Gajim should not allow to add groupchats to the roster

yes i can execute ad-hoc commands from there, but how do i join the transport into the roster?

you should not, it will create problems

where is the roster stored? can i edit some file for that?

no, Gajim will break

Groupchats should not be in the roster

this breaks assumptions

i did do that long time ago and still have one transport under "Transports" in the roster, but i dont remember anymore how to join it

there is no way if the address advertises itself as groupchat

i want this because it shows the server messages etc

you can do it from another client that is less strict

how would i join a transport into the roster in gajim though?

roster is stored on the server

there is no gajim roster

try to add the address to your roster from another client

ok will try to edit the roster on prosody

hmm now it shows like a groupchat under transports (the lightbulb) but the other transport (on same prosody + biboumi) has the hash # symbol

how do i change it from lightbulb to hash symbol?

you cant, it is determined on discovery

and as said, biboumi advertises itself as groupchat

but now i have one with the hash and another with the lightbulb, so it is possible somehow to change it from lightbulb to hash (since such a transport is present already)

it works but gajim shows the wrong symbol for it

no

icon is determined from disco

can i trigger re-discovery somehow?

why do you think it yields a different result?

try restarting Gajim

because i have another transport that is setup on the server exactly in same way that shows as hash

another transport, not biboumi?

another instance of biboumi

you have 2 instances of bioumi installed on your server?

yes

as separate components

are you sure you comparing apples with apples

what adress did you add to your roster?

the component, or the irc server

componentname.jid.of.xmpp.server

on what version of Gajim are you?

version 1.3.3

open a chat, write a message, or restart

such things could maybe trigger a disco

can i delete the config in gajim so it re-creates its roster from the server?

i think so, by deleting .cache/gajim/cache.db

Hmm now gajim does not work anymore i will delete everything gajim in my home directory

`MAIN_WIN_ACTIONS`: What do the variant types `s`, `as`, `a{sv}` mean?

https://lazka.github.io/pgi-docs/#GLib-2.0/classes/VariantType.html#GLib.VariantType

thx

Wth, XWayland keeps regularly crashing using PyCharm 😐

Hmm trying to reconnect my accounts from scratch gajim just freezes for hours when doing that, all i can do is kill it and nuke its directories again

Gui completely unresponsive

de-facto: try removing that transport roster entry using a different client

How can i avoid gajim to freeze on logging into a new account?

Other clients work without any problem

by deleting the offending roster entry using a different client

yes. we made some assumptions about group chats not being added to the roster, which backfires now

It has a number at its title in square braces that counts up

For hours and hours

Until it completely freezes

not sure what you want to hear

What is it doing when joining an account?

> Wth, XWayland keeps regularly crashing using PyCharm 😐 meson: recently updated X11 and pycharm? Check this out https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/IDEA-350864/Display-server-crashing-on-Ubuntu-Linux-due-to-antialiasing-settings

And what does that counter mean?

Also it takes 2GB (!) of memory

> What is it doing when joining an account? it fetches your roster and most likely crashes there. delete the offending chat using a different client (I wrote this three times now)

rom1dep: thanks, hopefully the today's xwayland update on TW will do it

cal0pteryx, Start/Pause/Resume/Stop/Send already work for a single chat, but I'm currently using a global instance and I've decided to first solve the problem of re-setting the recording state when changing the chat and resuming when going back before pushing to gitlab.

https://share.conversations.im/meeson_/VDh997VkCxpfoKUS/Screenshot_20240411_212647.png

meson: I think it's common practice to stay focused on one chat while recording a voice message. on Telegram for example, you need to hold a button even

current state, but I plan to upgrade it later with a nice live graph visualisation and integrate part of the player, which could show up, when pausing. but that would need to abstract the other classes a bit more.

So you'd say when switching chat the recording should just stop and the progress be lost?

Then I'd definitely add a confirmation dialog.

I mean that would makes things a lot easier :)

> on Telegram for example, you need to hold a button even even on the desktop? 🙀️

> So you'd say when switching chat the recording should just stop and the progress be lost? yes. plus a confirmation dialog, exactly

Okay, fine for me.

i would go one step further

pressing record opens a modal overlay dialog

which shows all that

so you cannot do anything in Gajim until the recording is stopped

Mhmm I thought to find it quiet useful to continue working/chatting while recording an audio.

but then you cannot design it as popover like you do here

then it needs to be a floating dialog beside or over the application

i would say a user wants to always know that a recording is running

not only if he finds the correct chat again

Not if we go with >> So you'd say when switching chat the recording should just stop and the progress be lost? > yes. plus a confirmation dialog, exactly The dialog can be opened/closed any time to control the recording

There's indicator: the mic icon changes to a red dot when recording

but you dont see this icon if you are not in this chat

and implementing somekind of confirmation dialog whenever switching away sounds complicated

you can do a lot more switching in gajim then just chat

there are multiple ways how the chat gets hidden

pressing your avatar, pressing a workspace, ..

I see ...

i find it extremly ugly to implement everwhere a hook that asks if a recording is running

for me it seems much easier to provide the feature in a separate dialog

its easier in every way, you dont need to care what in Gajim happens, the user sees always the state of the recording .. etc

this would be the simplest way for sure

maybe not the prettiest

if you want to go for more pretty, i could think that the recording is maybe in some bar we show at the top of gajim?

or a little overlay in some corner?

or you leave it like it is

but if you switch, we show a big button somewhere to jump back to thechat?

but really all this sounds like much more complex and buggy all for some kind of subjective idea of prettiness

i dont care much about pretty, it needs to do the job, and people dont use messengers because they are pretty

it needs to be functinal

and a separate dialog is hard to beat in my opinion

don't you think this would be sufficient? https://lazka.github.io/pgi-docs/#Gtk-3.0/classes/Popover.html#Gtk.Popover.set_modal + binding to this signal https://lazka.github.io/pgi-docs/#Gtk-3.0/classes/Popover.html#Gtk.Popover.signals.closed

if a user clicks outside, closed is emitted, and this is where we can ask if we want to send

but meson said he want to use Gajim while recording

yep, that's not possible. but I doubt that's useful anyways

i could imagine some people recording their live story while doing something else

not sure if we need to plan for this

not with Gajim !!1

maybe lets start with a modal thing, and wait for users requesting the feature

but yeah if meson goes with modal, that hook seems useful

Alright, I go with whatever you guys suggest. Just tell me which direction you prefer. Things can later be still changed/made more pretty later if needed. ✏

Alright, I go with whatever you guys suggest. Just tell me which direction you prefer. Things can be still changed/made more pretty later if needed. ✏

i would go for the modal popover

and hook into the popover closed signal with some confirmation dialog

> yep, that's not possible. but I doubt that's useful anyways My thought was that you could still be able to talk about what was posted in the chat history w/o needing to remember it.

> i would go for the modal popover > > and hook into the popover closed signal with some confirmation dialog Okay

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