Gajim - 2024-04-04

is there have OTR plugin in gajim

spinnerguy14: No but you can look Psi or Psi+ which have OTR and OMEMO plugins

spinnerguy14: https://conversations.im/omemo/

^ feature comparison

ty all

i mean

i wanna use OTR in gajim man

spinnerguy14: that won't be possible

sad

oh also why do i get "No devices found to encypt this message to. Querying for devices now…" error when im trying send message to my self

i mean i dont understand what does it say

Having trouble starting the latest git checkout on Mac now. Last time it worked was roughly a week ago. Any ideas what could be missing here: https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/ff68f614-66cd-47bf-9bc2-74c4e4f82f09

Great, just reinstalled pygobject3 and gobject-introspection and it bails out right away with `ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'gi‘`. I guess I better reinstall some more libs.

> my branch can > > https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/merge_requests/1025 Has this been implemented yet? Voice and Audio calling (encrypted?)

elfchen, i bet the python version was updated

and so all deps are now installed in the wrong place

richmann, dont understand you question, you point to a open MR

so i think you can answer the question yourself if its implemented

richmann: In case you don't understand, no it has not yet been implemented.

thanks

> elfchen, i bet the python version was updated > > and so all deps are now installed in the wrong place Yeah, true, looks like it. I actually have three main versions installed and am using a venv but maybe some Python location shifted.

do you use brew?

lovetox pushed 1 commits to branch python-nbxmpp/master feat: Add Jingle Feedback namespace - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/python-nbxmpp/-/commit/cdb9488556468649726c1f8676153dcff483fed4

lovetox pushed 1 commits to branch gajim/master other: Build: Add *_editable hooks - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/bb5cbecd717e1a980d7dc8693db0fa9c3c5cfc7a

Good evening!

Where is documentation for nbxmpp?

there is none

It would be good to have, so it would be easier to build more software upon it and port PyXMPP software to nbxmpp.

Would it be possible to take the task to document nbxmpp?

why not use one of the documented xmpp libraries?

slixmpp is probably the option

or https://github.com/horazont/aioxmpp

> why not use one of the documented xmpp libraries? Because I think having more than one software for a purpose would be good.

Thank you for the reference.

> why not use one of the documented xmpp libraries? Second reason: If the API is similar to PyXMPP, then it would be preferable and faster to port Python 2 software to Python 3 with nbxmpp. Same for SleekXMPP to slixmpp. See https://framagit.org/swisslinux.org/slobot/-/commit/59928ea0a480d3f7ee184963c64e085165cf003a

if i look at pyxmpp, this looks like it does everything itself, and does not need a library

i strongly recommend against building anything on nbxmpp

nbxmpp is certainly worse in every aspect compared to slix or aioxmpp

Thank you for the information

further its the inhouse lib of Gajim, i will change it to whatever Gajim needs

Is not nbxmpp a fork of PyXMPP?

does not look like it

nbxmpp exists for like 20 years

whatever it was forked from, it does not resemble anymore in the slightest ✏

> do you use brew? Yes, it got so much updates over Easter that I didn't manage to check all changes.

the thing is i think you need to beware with what you install

if you install with pip, the question is which interpreter does it use

we had in the past problems, that it was linked to the old python version, and then installed stuff into the wrong dir

I am sure that I have been using the venv but wouldn't be the first time that the Python version on which it is based has vanished.

why can't i increase the font size past 1.5

because we thought thats enough

it's not. can this arbitrary limitation be removed

large font size is a basic accessibility feature

yes we can, please open a feature request on our GitLab instance

lovetox, Do you have any experience with prosody's muc_block_pm module? I'm rewriting most of the module and noticed this line: ``` room:route_to_occupant(from_occupant, st.error_reply(stanza, "cancel", "policy-violation", "Private messages are disabled", room.jid)) ``` Which if I understand correctly, should inform the user/client of their PM not being send/delivered and justifying why this happens. I only noticed just now that gajim seems to silently block the message and not inform the user about this.

hm, does another client show it?

it shoud be shown, but it could be a bug on either side

either the stanza is not correctly addressed or we drop it for some reason

Afaik no? I'm only able to test using gajim in my limited test environment VM.

ah wait, i know a test muc for this

I can't confirm nor deny, I mostly use gajim (and also to debug things)

> ah wait, i know a test muc for this It would be great if we can confirm what or where the issue lies, so I can make the final adjustment before making the commit

works as expected on ejabberd

can you send me the stanza you send and the one returned

then i can tell you if its wrong

you should see it in the xml console

ubq323, maybe you're searching for a general GTK scale setting? because Gajim's GUI framework allows for general scaling as well

how does that work

search for GTK scale, depends on your desktop environment

ok

thanks

lovetox, ``` <message xmlns="jabber:client" type="error" from="mubituja@conference.prosody.local/test2" id="1732f0f5-186e-44c8-b5f5-d53f40c045d7" to="test@prosody.local/gajim.UNK8EUBA"> <error type="cancel" by="mubituja@conference.prosody.local"> <policy-violation xmlns="urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:xmpp-stanzas" /> <text xmlns="urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:xmpp-stanzas">Private messages are disabled</text> </error> </message> ```

and you dont see the error beside the message

?

a little warning symbol

ah i know why

prosody does not include <x xmlns="http://jabber.org/protocol/muc#user" />

Gajim needs this so it discovers that this is a muc pm

but its probably a edge case, not sure if prosody is wrong here

Should I point this out to the prosody devs or is this something that should/could/can be fixed in gajim?

Whatever is more logical I suppose

nvm i see the convo in XSF ✏

gooya, we will not add any specific code for that, Gajim depends on <x> for discovering muc pms, this was extra added to the muc xep because it caused troubles for all clients

maybe open a feature request on the prosody tracker

Okay thank you for identifying the issue and trying to argument this in XSF.

add a featre request on the prosody tracker, ask very very nice, and i think we have a chance of it beeing added

I'll do that, lets hope we succeed!

gooya: isn’t that a community module?

mod_muc_block_pm is a community module yes

I rewrote most of it ✏

local error = st.error_reply(stanza, "cancel", "policy-violation", "Private messages are disabled", room.jid) error:somethingsomethingaddchild(‘x’, theNamespace) or something like that 😉

MattJ said he’s not against adding that x so I think it would be accepted, especially for a community module?

> ``` > room:route_to_occupant(from_occupant, st.error_reply(stanza, "cancel", "policy-violation", "Private messages are disabled", room.jid)) > ```

this is the exact line from the module

Better to ask in the prosody MUC but adding that <x> is probably one addChild() call away ;) (not sure about the method name and syntax by heart right now, but I suspect it’s one line to add here)