Gajim - 2024-03-25

for creating merge requests gitlab will only let me choose from my own projects. is this a permissions thing

chud: I'm trying to build this but it seems that gtkglsink doesn't exist. a quick search seems to imply it'd be in the msys "bad" packages, but I have that installed already... 🤔

notnite, it said that for me too, I had to use https://fdossena.com/?p=mesa%2Findex.frag but I assumed that was just because I was running it inside qemu

I'll double check with the guy that suggested this thing to me if it should be needed on the host also

notnite, can you give the error output please ✏

one moment, I'm juggling gajim on my desktop and on my laptop

want a pastebin or should I just paste a codeblock in chat?

pastebin please

chud: https://gist.github.com/NotNite/a18ba33f3b090337430b39cb0201e89e

nothing in stdout/stderr as far as I can tell

I clicked "start video call" on another account logged into conversations

notnite can you run `GST_DEBUG="*:6" gajim` please? I'm almost sure it will say "no opengl shader" but just to be completely sure

or actually GST_DEBUG=3 is probably enough

notnite, but do audio calls work?

will test audio in a sec

I can hear fine, but my mic isn't picking up and the icons are greyed out with Muted. must be unable to detect my microphone?

``` WARN GST_ELEMENT_FACTORY gstelementfactory.c:712:gst_element_factory_make_with_properties: no such element factory "gtkglsink"! WARN GST_ELEMENT_FACTORY gstelementfactory.c:712:gst_element_factory_make_with_properties: no such element factory "gtksink"! ``` these appear in logs at startup

The icons don't work yet, but the mic should work nonetheless. Are you sure the mic isn't muted somewhere in windows settings?

ah, my mic was set wrong in windows; one second...

yep, works fine now that I fixed that (lol)

Hooray awesome

worth noting that on conversations I don't have the call icon on the top banner, but I can start calls from gajim

I didn't rush to implement the icons because I'm not sure if they are even needed. Dino doesn't have them, I think telegram doesn't either. There are already system settings for audio, do we want to configure them in two places? Not to mention it can be confusing when you're adjusting the application one and wondering why it's not working while the system one is set to 0?

> worth noting that on conversations I don't have the call icon on the top banner, but I can start calls from gajim Goddamn it. It's probably missing some other feature not being advertised, or just not picking up the update. This might even be Conversations fault. I don't like what conversations does with its fancy discovery. Hiding the call button is just mean. Why take extra steps for it? My code always just sends jmi. There's an option to call a device directly with session-inititate (there's a function exposed for that), but I don't think that will ever be needed - afaik all clients that support modern calls also support jmi. ↺

I find and replaced gtkglsink to autovideosink and made play_self_video empty (just `pass`) - obviously no preview, but it is working fine for sending video as I was able to see both cameras on my phone

won't send a screenshot for obvious privacy reasons but nice work

not sure I have the ability to figure out what's wrong with the gtk sink stuff, though; probably will try to build it another day

> chud: I'm trying to build this but it seems that gtkglsink doesn't exist. a quick search seems to imply it'd be in the msys "bad" packages, but I have that installed already... 🤔 Are you sure it's strictly mingw-w64-x86_64-gst-plugins-bad And not some other prefix? ↺

> I find and replaced gtkglsink to autovideosink and made play_self_video empty (just `pass`) - obviously no preview, but it is working fine for sending video as I was able to see both cameras on my phone Can you please try running `gst-launch-1.0.exe videotestsrc ! autovideosink` Does that show up a test video? ↺

yes, sure it is that prefix; autovideosink works with testvideo but it uses the d3d11 renderer

Hmm

looking at the pkgbuild it looks like gtk support is disabled?

I tried re-enabling it for fun just now and it failed with Wayland dependencies missing, wonder if they just broke windows support for it and moved on

Lol

That is possible

glimagesink seems to work with gst-launch, though; maybe that could be used with a custom widget?

not good enough at python/gst/gtk to try it, but an interesting idea

judjing by its description, it might. But it will probably get tricky

notnite, have you by any chance tested dino video calls on windows? Do those work?

I wasn't able to build dino myself the time I tried

there's a build already available

would you happen to have a link? I can give it a shot

https://github.com/LAGonauta/dino/releases

thanks, one moment

uuuuuh, this build doesn't look to have a/v

I don't use dino so I don't know where it'd be but I've poked every menu and found zero mention of it

oh, wait, I can start a call from mobile. one sec

very strange, I was able to make calls with it in the vm

but only audio

yeah, I guess it just wasn't detecting conversations supporting it or something

starting a call from my phone worked with both audio and video

(and it was able to transition to a video call - how neat!)

I'll have look into what that dino build does then

woah, think they made their own sink https://github.com/LAGonauta/dino/blob/ec6c24c2b41fc9de704323ce895b2dc81549ca5e/plugins/rtp/src/video_widget.vala

my goodness

hm, gstreamer guys claim gtkglsink *does* work on windows

yeah, I saw a post mentioning it too

some forum on google I found when I was troubleshooting, no idea where exactly

yes, actually given that for me it did work with the mesa thing, and for me it said "opengl problem", the gtkglsink must indeed work on windows too, but your system must be missing it ✏

yes, actually given that for me it did work with the mesa thing in qemu, and for me it said "opengl problem", the gtkglsink must indeed work on windows too, but your system must be missing it ✏

my only guess is it's been removed in the latest mingw64 packages and so older installations of gst still have it

Can't be the case, I set up that vm like yesterday or the day before

huh, alright

aha! mingw-w64-x86_64-gst-plugin-gtk

Did it work?

...huh, maybe an early celebration, it didn't show a popup error report this time but no widget

give me a sec

Meanwhile I built a flatpak, if someone wants to try it I think you should be able to ``` wget https://files.catbox.moe/htupal.flatpak flatpak install ./htupal.flatpak ``` or build it from the repo (calls branch, ..Devel.yaml)

It seems someone packages libdatachannel for debian https://deb-multimedia.org/dists/testing/main/binary-armel/package/libdatachannel0.20

interesting observation: gtkglsink doesn't work but gtksink does

when I try changing everything to it, though, my video stops going through from gajim to conversations :p

I'm headed to sleep now, hopefully my random adventures help in some form

Oh, I saw the existing code falling back to gtksink, but found that gtksink just errors out on linux, so discarded that believing it's something long deprecated. No biggie, I could just bring that trivial logic back. But I think I had better set up proper windows myself first to test

Btw there are automated tests for video. Run unittest with env var TEST_SOUNDS=1 and it will try to display videos and make sounds in a bunch of ways (these tests are skipped by default because: they're slow, with them enabled the whole suite takes 1 minute to run, and also depend on there being a network connection)

oh, cool!

with `queue ! videoconvert ! gtksink`on OutgoingContentPiece I was able to see both cameras on windows & conversations

awesome

Hello

for creating merge requests gitlab will only let me choose from my own projects. is this a permissions thing?

No, until now nobody had a problem with it

how do I remove/revoke my OMEMO key for Gajim? (and not the others)

https://draugr.de/upload/00f530bb49b4e1685114d28f8bb6fb44b2fcbc2f/ceU8HjxtE8FfAJa3I6tw9FJt8nVWnYUIXX0OrFcq/Screenshot_2024-03-25_at_05-06-42_New_merge_request___wusspuss___gajim___GitLab.png

what am I doing wrong

manually typing gajim/gajim doesn't work either

chud: I guess you need to navigate to gajims repo and start the MR from there

> how do I remove/revoke my OMEMO key for Gajim? (and not the others) anyone?

https://draugr.de/upload/00f530bb49b4e1685114d28f8bb6fb44b2fcbc2f/RFKPvOTz7ZHErrZ5f8e4xmf6dn1l5PQTASoxVF2Q/Screenshot_2024-03-25_at_05-18-14_Merge_requests___gajim___gajim___GitLab.png

no such button

Strange

What is the scope of support for PubSub in Gajim?

Scope is we don't use it as social network

It would be easier if you tell us what you want to use it for

https://draugr.de/upload/00f530bb49b4e1685114d28f8bb6fb44b2fcbc2f/u7Ncr8BPYNxTDnoAMaiwoxpkeFteLbgPTbHlTPRQ/Screenshot_at_2024-03-25_07-32-28.png

actually it won't even let me fork now either

what do I do?

Also, on a different topic: when I open a gajim after a long time, it takes a long time to load the message history, way longer than what my internet speed allows for. I am guessing this is because of round trip: the client requests a page, gets it, only then requests the next one and so on. Same goes for Dino. Would you guys say it would be possible to request bigger pages? Maybe even huge pages to ideally get everything in one go? Or is it instead the servers that limit this? ✏

chud: my experience seems to indicate being cpu bound on syncing mam. I still have to do a profile to figure this out.

cpu bound? How?... I would almost believe it if it were just gajim, because of how slow python is, but same goes for dino too.

is some fancy processing done on messages?

I haven't tested or had enough experience with other clients, but I recently did a big mam sync with gajim and it had 1 core pinned at 100% for the entire time

my guess: it's the fact that gajim is updating the displayed messages as they are downloaded

oh yes, that may be the case. But that can probably be remedied by just waiting for many to load

I made a new account since that one won't let me merge and now the fork button is greyed out altogether. lovetox can you please give me access dev.gajim.org/musipusi

I'm the evening

I'm the night!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=375ENQbru8s

Ah, that was one of my favorites

chud, are you sure you really forked the project?

actually i doubt it, you have 0 tags on your gajim project

Oh ok. Anyway it won't let me fork

Neither from the old nor from the new account.

i activated your new account

i think thats what you probably did

you registered saw, i cant fork

then you simply created a new project gajim, and pushed to it

where do I download chud gajim?

rude: easiest to run https://files.catbox.moe/htupal.flatpak

chud, very gud

lovetox, can we use pubsub to build masssive botnet?

I'm gonna do it, I'll write you a letter from jail saying if it was successful.

>then you simply created a new project gajim, and pushed to it what on earth does that mean. how do I transfer the changes into a real fork

i just said what i thought *you* did on your first repositiory

probably add your local repo as remote to the fork

and maybe cherry pick all commits

ah no, much easier

pull the real fork

then copy all files from your first repo over

except of course the .git dir

then git add ..

finished

but some files are also changed...

+ a backup :)

oh what a headache git is

my god

? if you copy over all files except the .git dir

you will end up in a state like you did all changes without commiting

then you can simply do one big commit

or, as said, add your local as remote and cherrypick commits from it

Why is the Status/Updates page separate from the Contact List/Notifications page? I feel like they should be combined, then have the Menu Bar functionality cleanly merged into the UI where you previously accessed one of those two pages.

Does that make sense?

i think so yes, its in progress, in the end we want to get rid of the status/update page

Great!