Gajim - 2024-03-15

i want to use Email id as Jabber id How ?

Hello everyone, is there any option to install an English-Russian translator right in the chat?

KotoAngel: not yet

> KotoAngel: not yet 👌 ↺

lofimusic: You can possibly create an account with the same username.

ok

for example: if you are lofimusic@gmail.com, you can try to create lofimusic@conversations.im. However you cannot use lofimusic@gmail as an xmpp/jabber id.

I suppose you could do something weird like lofimusic(at)gmail.com@conversations.im

bus sir i was already jobber in entered my lofimusic@gmail.com thats why i wan to make like this lofimusic@gmail.com jobber id its Can possible Yes Or Not ?

Hi there, i am connected to #lebistrot:matrix.org with Element web. does anyone know if this is possible to connect to this room with Gajim ?

we can send with gajim to Gamil Id lofimusic@gmail.com ? ✏

lofimusic: no

Not natively. I believe there are xmpp-email gateways, but I've never used one.

> Friday, 15 March, 2024 > [20:14:36] fjklp: > Not natively. I believe there are xmpp-email gateways, but I've never used one. Ok thanks for info

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> bus sir i was already jobber in entered my lofimusic@gmail.com thats why i wan to make like this lofimusic@gmail.com jobber id its Can possible Yes Or Not ? You can if you own the gmail.com domain :P ↺

which is also what google was doing back in the google talk days

lovetox - I was removed from the project again. I wonder if there's an expiration or something

Hi, I've set up my own openfire server but there's issue that Gajim client doesnt show chat history from when i was offline, conversations client works fine, and i got history when using gajim on different servers, is there any setting im not aware of?

group chat history

sorry for missing that detail :D

Go to, in Gajim, Accounts -> Server Info then the Features tab What is the status of XEP-0313?

disabled, but is it needed for group chats as well? if it works with conversations?

yes, it's needed for group chats you'll need to download the monitoring plugin for OpenFire which should be on their official list of plugins

groupchats need to be looked up on the groupchat info page

https://www.igniterealtime.org/projects/openfire/plugins.jsp

a archive of a MUC has not necessarily something to do with a archive of an account

so after installing monitoring plugin it says its archiving now. Still not sure why conversations would somehow fetch the history?

there could be multiple archiving implementations

Gajim only supports MAM

but this is all better answered in the openfire support chat

> lovetox - I was removed from the project again. I wonder if there's an expiration or something don't know if you caught this. lovetox

no you are still added

what are you trying to do that does not work

lol browser logged me out - my bad

ok :)

In creating documentation and looking through code, I have found that the `ChatCommands` class has no public methods for removing a command This will be important for deactivating a command plugin.

yes we usually only add code if someone needs it

but yes the chat commands are a obvious point to hook into for plugins

so we should make this more smooth

I've just been diving into it some more, and I think it probably has to do with using argparse, which itself has no interface for removing arguments at runtime

this makes sense, if you think about what argparse is supposed to be used for

we could simply reinit the parser whenever some method is called

right, but then that would remove the commands of all other plugins

or at least the parsers of all other plugins

yeah we would have to add some register methods where we store whatever plugins register separately from the parser

what they need to supply is - the command, a callback, and on which type of chat it can be used

hm .. but the command on argparse has many parsing options

it maybe better to simply have a signal "parser-init" which plugins need to hook into, and where we simply pass the parser, and they can add whatever they want

Yeah, that would be ideal Right now it's set up to do "make_parser" then "add_command passing that parser in"

where the parser actually takes the callback, not "add_command"

do you want to use commands in your plugin?

I'm just porting over the regex filter plugin, as the example in my documentation/guide, which currently doesn't work in the current version of Gajim

but even that plugin could use a GUI, instead of commands I think commands are a nice, low-barrier-to-entry way to develop plugins though

because otherwise, someone has to learn some GTK

i agree

Im chatting with openfire guys about the mam, is there anything to look for in xml console or logs regarding un/successful fetch?

You said you were fetching messages... now you are saying you weren't!?!?

no, i never said i was fetching them

they were archiving but still not fetching :(

tried with conversations and gajim but both clients are not fetching group chats

Move to Ignite Realtime chat

its likely a server configuration problem

i went there, theyve asked for any log entries from gajim

are you testing this in a groupchat?

yes, should i try single chat?

no, did enable archiving in the specific groupchat on the configuration page?

> i went there, theyve asked for any log entries from gajim and I have said that I believe I know the answer, as I believe its a configuration issue, I don't think walking through Openfire config is the topic of this MUC hence why I asked you to hop back ↺

> no, did enable archiving in the specific groupchat on the configuration page? I got groupchat on openfire set to show up to 100 last messages, and groupchat is showing archiving in gajim client. Ill try to set it up from start again

check whether the group chat has archiving enabled

you have configured archiving for the service

but is the channel actually archiving

okay thanks for all the help, despite channel showing that is archiving, compared to another group chats it didnt have that Conversations are stored on the server message at the top, after recreating the group chat it seems to be working

_probably because you forgot to enable archiving the first time_

Archiving is default IIRC ✏

lovetox pushed 2 commits to branch gajim/master refactor: PluginManager: Make methods private and simplify code - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/1944e89d7aededdc25090ae865ef16d5fa1ef859 feat: Plugins: Add extension point for adding chat commands - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/5ccfdb9e1203283afb416cddc161d335ce4ea5de

Zeke, ^

> but is the channel actually archiving Is that "Room is Persistent" setting? just because I'm curious

> lovetox pushed 2 commits to branch gajim/master > > refactor: PluginManager: Make methods private and simplify code - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/1944e89d7aededdc25090ae865ef16d5fa1ef859 > > feat: Plugins: Add extension point for adding chat commands - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/5ccfdb9e1203283afb416cddc161d335ce4ea5de > > Nice!

i had left all the default settings again and it just work this time, all of my channels are persistent

i wonder as well if it is that setting, because there is no setting "archive channel/groupchat"

> i wonder as well if it is that setting, because there is no setting "archive channel/groupchat" Its under the channel settings

not within the archive settings

lovetox pushed 1 commits to branch gajim/master imprv: GroupChat: Improve default room config - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/6f6d1d60d8af5951438fd06c7f36361806f0ee41