Gajim - 2024-02-15


  1. bodqhrohro

    > is there any way to force gajim to resync archive of MUC? When I brought a patch for that into Dino, they expectedly started to whine it's kludge and things should "just work" in their ideal world lol (like in Cheogram, which can consume gigabytes of traffic just for MAM sync?) Gajim supports a force MAM sync from the Accounts menu, but it works for all chats only, and is picky on their type, AFAIR.

  2. bodqhrohro

    > is there any way to force gajim to resync archive of MUC? When I brought a patch for that into Dino, they expectedly started to whine it's kludgy and things should "just work" in their ideal world lol (like in Cheogram, which can consume gigabytes of traffic just for MAM sync?) Gajim supports a force MAM sync from the Accounts menu, but it works for all chats only, and is picky on their type, AFAIR.

  3. bodqhrohro

    Hilariously, when I wanted to make a full local copy of a chat in Element Desktop (to make a backup then), I just have written a script which presses PgUp in a loop and left it for the night in the hope nothing intrudes into the process. History from official Discord is fetched with a bookmarklet which also works like that. Is this cancer really the future of messengers we need? What was wrong with the paged history navigation window?

  4. bodqhrohro

    (don't even ask how do I correlate the two)

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  7. amogus

    element and some other matrix clients has an option to fetch the full chat without all that scrolling. eats up a shitload of ram for huge rooms though

  8. bodqhrohro

    amogus: where?

  9. Emil

    I also miss history window from 1.3.3

  10. swinginghay

    user_74: every news portal not just fox

  11. lovetox

    > What was wrong with the paged history navigation window?

  12. lovetox

    bodqhrohro, you can page through days with the current search

  13. lovetox

    the only difference is that its not a additional window

  14. lovetox

    and i fail to see why we need a additional window that has the same chatview as we already have in the chat

  15. Fiona

    It's helpful if you're referring to history in the ongoing conversation. Doesn't happen that often to me, but when it does it'd be helpful to have them side by side instead of having to jump around (likely using search).

  16. lovetox

    you search a message to reference it i guess?

  17. lovetox

    but yeah if the use case is, i want to chat *while* i look at history

  18. lovetox

    this is indeed not possible

  19. lovetox

    my gut feeling would be still that this is not a common enough use case to justify a new dialog

  20. Fiona

    Yeah, pretty much. E.g. when picking up a previous topic again and I want to look up details while continuing the conversation.

  21. lovetox

    split screen :D ?

  22. bodqhrohro

    lovetox: true, but how do I fetch MAM for a certain day this way? :P

  23. bodqhrohro

    With HTML logs that's pretty easy.

  24. lovetox

    it would be also trivial with the calender , simply fetch everything for that day

  25. lovetox

    the problem is not fetching messages currently

  26. lovetox

    the problem is for me that its actually pretty complicated to keep messages in order in the database if you dont use a normal forward fetch from your last position

  27. lovetox

    the archive id that the server applies, is not a orderable id

  28. lovetox

    so the only thing you can order on is the timestamp of the message itself

  29. lovetox

    but multiple messages can have the same timestamp, and then you run into problem ..

  30. lovetox

    there are only very complex solutions to this problem currently, im not feeling comftable to implement

  31. lovetox

    i hope and wait for some XEP that gives us orderable archive ids, or some way to discover that the server has microsecond support with timestamps, which i think is close enough then

  32. sch

    From slixmpp ``` # session['notes'] = [ -- Add informative notes about the # ('info', 'Info message'), command's results. # ('warning', 'Warning message'), # ('error', 'Error message')] ``` It appears that Gajim does not support note type warning: *An error occurred - Invalid note type warning*.

  33. famfo

    Hi, I have two XMPP accounts with the same name and when sending messages in quick succession to each other, gajim displays them as coming from the same account: https://paste.dn42.cc/?5d4a024886742a6a#ikgP66MjP3icfoLLtrnTtcbDTFW2FPaLuRY3vnZLGad