Gajim - 2024-02-12

> hermann: Strg+U with Emacs keybindings enabled. I guess I wanted to do ctrl+z and accidentally hit "u" It's weirred that I can't get that text back with ctrl+z und it's also weirred to put it next to the "z" 😭️

> And I'd really suggest to not trust any kinds of textareas in arbitrary apps for longreads and use a full-fledged text-editor with periodic autosaving for that. oftentimes I don't know how long a text will become and I just keep forgetting to switch to a text editor app because I rely on ctrl+z and that works most of the times. Anyways, thank all for your hints. At least now I know what I should pay attention to (ctrl+u)

hmm, that should probably be considered a bug

Hey, everybody. What does "Available: not synchronized" mean?

No idea, the server of your contacts sends us that ✏

>It's weirred that I can't get that text back with ctrl+z und it's also weirred to put it next to the "z" I see that this bug is already in the tracker https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/issues/11639

> Are we still ignoring that IQ in MUCs are a hack lovetox, I suggest, in the meantime, to add the following functionality: 1) Option to IQ in MUC to be disabled by default. 2) If option is enabled, and IQ is sent, a prompt dialog will be displayed as follows: Participant NAME from MUC wants to query your real JID. [allow] [deny]

This will _increase awareness_ to this issue.

During registration, Gajim should tell stupid newcomers that they can input a server address manually instead of choosing one from the list.

Maybe change the description to “select or input...”

Many newcomers meet this problem.

This is a problem with multiple text input fields in gajim. There is example placeholder text 'example.org', but the field is selected by default which means the text is not displayed unless a different widget is selected.

I don't know if that can be changed but it would be nice if it can

I think in most programs, the example text text does display, even when selected, and only hides the example text when the user types something. Yeah, I just tested this with wireshark and that's how it works. The display filter input box in wireshark. ✏

That's a GTK thing, not a Gajim thing

I think I hate gtk

sch: please make sure that if you test something with your bot and then suggest something for gajim (e.g. form handling), that data forms have multiple different use cases and gajim has to display them all.

cal0pteryx, I will make more forms and present them

It's not about forms you create, but about forms from various services in the xmpp world

If you say label X has to go above entry Y, then gajim would display it as such for _every_ form there is. And it might not make sense in every case

Voice calls still don't work?

> If you say label X has to go above entry Y, then gajim would display it as such for _every_ form there is. And it might not make sense in every case cal0pteryx, I thought about it too. Should we refer to XSF and ask for horizontal/vertical rules?

Hi

I'm trying out gajim and I cannot seem to figure out how to run ad-hoc commands, can anyone give me a pointer?

Chat menu or roster menu

Execute command

oh, there's a whole menu next to the chat input bar, that explains

Thanks lovetox !

>> If you say label X has to go above entry Y, then gajim would display it as such for _every_ form there is. And it might not make sense in every case > cal0pteryx, I thought about it too. Should we refer to XSF and ask for horizontal/vertical rules? No, that's a client decision. My point was that you make suggestions for your specific use case, while Gajim has to display _all_ use cases. And I wanted to make you aware of that, so you can take that into account when making those suggestions. That's all ↺

I think that in case no single-text form is present, then it is appropriate to place multi-lined forms under label.

I added your notes to the end of my post.

> I see that this bug is already in the tracker https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/issues/11639 indeed, thanks fjklp

does voice/video calling work with gajim on !windows?

I think it only works on !windows

(but right now, "works" is an overstatement; there's a host of bugs fixes for which need to be merged)

yeah, sorry. that's what i meant. i've only tried it on windows and saw it wasn't supported, so i was wondering if it has support anywhere or if it's a TODO

it sounds like i should just wait for the patches to be merged, though

Its not supported in current official version i guess

> I think it only works on !windows It "only" worked in linux earlier. ↺

grin, put it this way: it is technically supported only on linux (because gst/farstream lack the necessary implementations of the network layer for windows), but practically it does not work anywhere due to both gst/farstream and gajim having bugs in the implementation

alright, thanks for the explanation

lovetox pushed 3 commits to branch python-nbxmpp/master release: 4.5.4 - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/python-nbxmpp/-/commit/dc5a6c3d54350f035862a7a6b8804265e06762d5 fix: Correctly discover subject change - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/python-nbxmpp/-/commit/f84e0cf4e3b9e4d2f1bb25324cdf4b023b66e292 feat: Add XEP-0353 namespace - https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/python-nbxmpp/-/commit/d65645c8c0270d93d6a39f75e192a63a04d447d8