Gajim - 2024-02-09

Hello, I'm trying to send a message to a friend's email and it tells me this: Stream closed by peer: Communication with this domain is restricted (policy-violation)

Any help or reason for this problem I have already tried everything

You are trying to send a message from gajim to an email address? This isn't possible without using gateway that is intended for that, and I have never used one.

How did you attempt to do this?

Thanks for the quick response, but I'm not trying that. Shipping is to another jabber account

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hi does anyone know why the start voice/video call buttons are grayed out in a local chat with someone on the same server as mine. Im running the newest version of ejabberd, and my STUN/TURN servers are configured. So it should work. We are also both using Gajim.

freya, as far as I know A/V does not work with Gajim atm

a darn ok. are there clients that do work?

dino, I think

ok thanks

freya, do you have "Use STUN server On" in your Gajim settings ?

I think the older A/V implementation still works with Gajim but not the newer one ?

I am not totally sure

Greetings

My Gajim crashed today and I think it was due to workspaces

I had to delete the `workspaces` row of the `settings` table in the `~/.config/gajim/settings.sqlite` to recover.

I should have saved the error logs but due to lack of foresight I did not

and now I don't even know why I'm in this room saying all of this

:D thanks anyways, until next time ;) I haven't seen crashes purely related to workspaces yet. Would be interesting what went wrong there

I haven't either, and I've messed with them some trying to make weird stuff happen. I guess I need to try harder.

https://bpa.st/36KQ What is wrong with this stanza that gajim sees the chat marker as from the group chat ("message read by <group chat name>") not from the user ("message read by <username>")

https://invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-desktop/-/merge_requests/2030 > install a kde-mimeapps.list \o/ soon at least for Plasma 6 users there should no longer be wrong apps starting for images opened from Gajim ✏

\o/

🤘️

Now if I could have that fix for Firefox starting the wrong file manager...

elfchen: it's documented on the Wiki, check the FAQ section

> https://bpa.st/36KQ What is wrong with this stanza that gajim sees the chat marker as from the group chat ("message read by <group chat name>") not from the user ("message read by <username>") Polarian: if something's wrong it's probably with the stanza containing the read marker, not the stanza containing the message that will later be marked as read?

>> https://bpa.st/36KQ What is wrong with this stanza that gajim sees the chat marker as from the group chat ("message read by <group chat name>") not from the user ("message read by <username>") > Polarian: if something's wrong it's probably with the stanza containing the read marker, not the stanza containing the message that will later be marked as read? nicoco: oops I sent the wrong stanza apologies ↺

I will get that in about 30 mins

_don't have my laptop on me right now_

AFAIK gajim will use XXX from <message from=XXX …> to determine "who" read the message, so from is probably room@muc-service instead of room@muc-service/the-participant, but that's just a wild guess

> AFAIK gajim will use XXX from <message from=XXX …> to determine "who" read the message, so from is probably room@muc-service instead of room@muc-service/the-participant, but that's just a wild guess sounds like an easy mistake to make... ↺

your guess seems very likely :P

> cal0pteryx: it's documented on the Wiki, check the FAQ section You mean this? https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/wikis/help/gajimfaq#gajim-opens-folderfiles-with-the-wrong-application-linux I know that and use it. But much nicer if it picks up the right defaults from Plasma 6 without myself having to fumble around in some obscure files.

Sure, if there is a way for GTK to detect this automatically, we should use it. But afaik there isn't

> Now if I could have that fix for Firefox starting the wrong file manager... This might help: https://matija.suklje.name/games-consoles-and-the-meta-mystery#plasma-ify-firefox ✏

Does anyone happen to know what part of the process makes it slow to switch chats to a chat with many occupants when the chat list is open?

For example: is it waiting to download the list of occupants, is it the time to process the list, is it the time to render the avatars?

yes GTK draws the list ✏

and it draws always the full list, even if you cannot see it ✏

and of course at the same time we have to load messages, load avatars etc

but to me it feels fast enough

i wonder also to what you compare it, show me some messenger that does it faster so i can compare

> i wonder also to what you compare it, show me some messenger that does it faster so i can compare Fair question. I haven't been using anything else lately, but maybe I'll go testing some time.

It's slow enough to be annoying to me in rooms with many users.

The reason I asked is because I was trying to think if there might be ways to optimize.

I had some vague ideas about trying to do diffs on the user list from one load to the next or something, maybe useless thoughts

or something like caching of the product of whatever work is done, displaying that, then updating after showing the chat

this might all be ultimately nonsense

or, I'm the only person who cares and I'm not writing the code :)

simply dont show it

> and it draws always the full list, even if you cannot see it makes me wonder if we can divide this into initial rendering of roughly however many fit the screen height, then load more when you scroll down, like with chat search

you only see the first 15 people always

its 99,9% of time useless spacewaste you dont need

and the 1% where you need it, open it

I need to figure out how to add keyboard shorcuts

> makes me wonder if we can divide this into initial rendering of roughly however many fit the screen height, then load more when you scroll down, like with chat search you can do anything, but all you just said is the job of a GUI Framework/Toolkit

and im not in the business of inventing one

:)

besides, fyi in gtk4 they addressed that issue

but sadly you trade one thing that works better for 10 other things that stop working

so not worth it at this point

truly sad

> but sadly you trade one thing that works better for 10 other things that stop working is this referring to gtk4, generally?

yes, i give them 1 or 2 years

sounds optimistic, going by my experience as a user

I just expect things to be broken forever

not quite true, but it feels like it

i think switch speed is very low on things that are important

but maybe im just accustomed to MS Teams

it's definitely good when the user list is closed

so when i use Gajim, it feels very fast

I've not used MS Teams

I think Element renders a partial list and give the option to "load more" or something

Even chats that have ~1000 people only take a couple of seconds to load up on my slowest laptop (which I'm on right now), and it's from ~2006