Gajim - 2024-02-03

I can't read most of the old messages anyway.

perhaps I can do that tomorrow. now, there's nobody online to chat with of my contacts.

:(

I can exchange some messages if you want

Thank you for the offer.

I would send the debug logs, but I don't want to reveal my complete contact list. You get some sent often, surely some simple command, with grep or something, that removes all jids from contacts? or replaces them with something anonymous?

fjklp, sorry, that should be "there is surely some simple command ... "

> I would send the debug logs, but I don't want to reveal my complete contact list. You get some sent often, surely some simple command, with grep or something, that removes all jids from contacts? or replaces them with something anonymous? I've done it myself

replace jids with fake jids, just make sure you do it in a consistent way

> fjklp, sorry, that should be "there is surely some simple command ... " I've considered making a script for this purpose

ah but it doesn't exist yet?

not that I know of

I searched a bit and found nothing

I'll ask chatgpt. but first breakfast.

is it a bug? When I mark the whole line in the following comment, and press CTRL+C it copies just the link, but not the text before

This text will be missing on CTRL+C on my system. Now a link https://fosdem.org/2024/schedule/event/fosdem-2024-2190-single-vendor-is-the-new-proprietary/

strange. here it works. In a private channel it fails reproducably

Ah... marking a line with 3 mouseclicks makes it blue, but copy and paste works not properly then.

is it the same for you? Gajim 1.8.4 on Gentoo built from source here.

Hello Gajim community, does anyone also have the following problem that the Auto Away function does not work under Windows. It does not switch automatically after 5 minutes. In addition, the Auto Not Available switch appears after 1 minute when the Windows screen saver is set, although it should only appear after 180 minutes. Windows 10; Gajim 1.8.4 Already many thanks for an answer about this.

> is it the same for you? Gajim 1.8.4 on Gentoo built from source here. jstein copy and paste seems to work normally for me. Describe how to reproduce it.

while writing a more detailed step by step description to reproduce it, I see that it is more complex. I am totally confused now. Perhaps I should reboot and test it with different systems. I will come back to it, when I have a better how to reproduce scheme for you.

You simply need to check where the focus is

You cannot copy text if the focus is in the message input

but I expected that the focus will automatically be on the text, where I click 3 times. And then I click back to the input line. But I will have to do more investigations

chatgpt does something that seems to potentially work.

``` https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/ea151b36-f372-4d0f-b583-fdd20aa2e5b3

however, it only replaces jids at the moment, standalone server names "(chat.example.com)"

I don't have time now, but I will try to develop it further.

"NOT standalone..."

wouldn't it be possible to combine such a script with gajims pastebin, so that pasted debug logs would get automatically anonymized?

what is the maximum allowed size for direct pastes here, that go in the gajim pastebin?

there are lots of errors on the pastebins website..

but it seems to work anyway.

Hello

I am sorry to ask such a noob question. Is there a step by step guide to route gajim traffic through Tor? I am extremely new at this and don't think I set it up right.

I don't know about a step by step guide but I've seen it recommended to use the torsocks program, which you do by `torsocks gajim`

I've only experimented with gajim over tor a bit and I had some troubles with gajim not being able to do some dns resolution

I never got it fully resolved

I see. Thanks. Its another thing to try at least.

I just noticed, that when I write something in gajim, do a new line, and then press STRG-SHIFT + up/down to fetch some lines from above, the first line that I have typed, is gone. I would like to have it that it persists for the new message. Is there already a feature request for this behaviour?

You can't combine text you already typed with other messages from earlier.

That sounds like very weird behavior

If you want to reply to a previous message, you would have to do that explicitly

i just thought about something like that - > i wrote this before now I want to say something to it again ✏

have that in one message

Um es nochmal zu verdeutlichen: > I just noticed, that when I write something in gajim, do a new line, and then press STRG-SHIFT + up/down to fetch some > > lines from above, the first line that I have typed, is gone. > I would like to have it that it persists for the new message. > Is there already a feature request for this behaviour? ist doch eigentlich nciht schlecht?

oh sorry,,, I switched to german.

hope its to understand anyway.

My point is: this is confusing on the input side

I don't see other messengers do that, do you?

that would be a "alleinstellungsmerkmal"

but of course, if you don't see the need to have such behaviour, yo won't implement it.

but I think it would be nice. Of course, you can do it manually i just stumbled over this behaviour, that the function STRG+SHIFT+up/down deletes the typed message.

Yes, because its intention is to let you scroll through past messages in order to reply to them. It was never intended as an "apply this to my already typed message" function

Martin7, screen saver triggers away, it has nothing to do with the timers you set

> Yes, because its intention is to let you scroll through past messages in order to reply to them. It was never intended as an "apply this to my already typed message" function I'm going to observe myself to see in which chat situations I like to do this and then consider whether I really need it.

Martin7, about the away timer, set it to 1 minute to test, but just so you know, every action on your computer resets the timer

it only switches if you dont touch the mouse for that time

also if you have multiple accounts added to Gajim, you might not see it in Gajim, because it shows you a overall status over all accounts

depending on your settings

"Alleinstellungsmerkmal" = unique selling point

in german the word fits better

I have a python script now for the anonymizing of the gajim debug logs. please confirm that it is working, and doing what it should. I paste it here, hopefully it will show up in the pastebin.

#!/usr/bin/env python3 https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/bfefc0ac-d76d-420d-aa26-354ffcbb9312

I used this text to generate the python script:

ich möchte eine debug-log-datei von gajim anonymisieren, https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/b1f2f524-b13b-4272-b150-0f181392c8fb

ah.. it seems to not paste the first line. good to know, in this way you can give a heading.

If you alter the description for your needs, you can easyliy re-create the code with chatgpt, saving a lot of time.

I had a 5 MB debug log for the tests, It took under 5 seconds to complete. (on a raspi4)

(appr. 48000 lines)

> If you alter the description for your needs, you can easyliy re-create the code with chatgpt, saving a lot of time. I would definitely withdraw this premature recommendation. It's fun to experiment with it, but it hasn't saved any time in the end. I'm still trying to optimise it. But if I knew the programming language properly, it would certainly go faster. So be careful with chatgpt...

Hello, If the text is too long and goes straight to the Pastebin: Please read! Important. Its about the debug-log-anonymizing script. TLDR: better put that code in the logfile generator.

Hello, https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/29d02e6f-384a-4722-b38c-64d4e530664c

heres the german original:

Falls der Text zu lang ist, und gleich ins Pastebin wandert: Bitte lesen! wichtig. https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/ef7ba5ab-97f1-40fb-a209-cb4e3abaf749

and heres a french translation

Bonjour ! https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/6c440cc3-c4a0-4146-99da-5b46af55b6c5

its done with deepl, i hope the quality is good.