Gajim - 2024-01-12

yak: search on bugs.kde.org. there's an open issue with further instructions

https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/wikis/help/gajimfaq#gajim-opens-folderfiles-with-the-wrong-application-linux

solved. thank you!

hi. I created a couple of conferences. But after I quited form gajim it can't join these conferences anymore. Other conferences are available to join and chat but not mine. Otherwise psi+ are able to join that couple of mine (I used it long time ago) Is there some kind of workaround? My version of gajim is 1.7.3 and version of python-nbxmpp is 4.2.2

Hmm, for 1:1 contacts, it seems I can see all the messages on Conversation, but on Gajim (and Dino and Kaidan, TBH), many messages are missing (and a seemingly random selection for eacch client).

Any idea how to figure out and fix this? My server is Metronome, BTW.

hook: if it's OMEMO-encrypted, it's expected that newly connected apps cannot fetch the full history. is that it maybe?

That could be it.

But why different messages for different clients?

(The technical term is "perfect forward secrecy")

> But why different messages for different clients? Because you first launched them at different moment in time? ✏

> But why different messages for different clients? Because you first launched them at different moments in time? ✏

Right, but if that is the case, then each client should have all messages from the point onward when it started accepting it, no?

The "random" part is weird indeed, but not all clients fetch the whole history when you open a chat, so that may explain some differences?

MUCs seem to be fine though (probably due to lack of OMEMO)

I can try to see if it’s trully random or not. Also weird that Conversation seems to have all messages regardless.

Isn't Conversations the first app you actually used?

clarification: when I try to join my conf I see this https://pasteboard.co/86Drbt5QjtBq.png

Conversations is probably always online

so it never fetches history

> Isn't Conversations the first app you actually used? I typically added people through Gajim.

> Conversations is probably always online I was suspecting something like that too.

you can check accounts -> advanced -> archiving preferneces

it needs to be set to always

geometric, maybe a issue with the server?

> you can check accounts -> advanced -> archiving preferneces “Archiving Preferences” menu item is greyed out, can’t click it

maybe it destroys groupchats after you leave

hook, check account -> server info

what it says for MAM

sorry Features tab

Message Archive Management

> maybe it destroys groupchats after you leave it seems not. So I can see them in a service

geometric, you would need to gather debug logs to investigate further

and see what happens when you join

lovetox, there is a ✔ next to XEP-0313 MAM

> hook, check account -> server info like this?

geometric, no, preferneces -> advanced, debug logging

hook, but it seems your server does not support setting archiving preferences

so the question is, does it really store messages?

How do I find that out? I’m runing Metronome 4.0.3 (on YunoHost) ✏

maybe ask in the metronome support chat

of course you could also test disabling OMEMO

On it, thanks, lovetox

so encryption related problems are ruled out

before you bug the server devs

lovetox, I analysed all the 1:1 chats and came to the following results: https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/1e20c221-32de-4d22-8791-977fc5fef60c

looks to me like there is a archive problem maybe

you can easily test this by having a device online, and tell a contact to send a message

afterwards come online with Gajim

and see if you see this message

Perhaps make phone go offline, quit Gajim and ask from e.g. Dino someone to message (unencrypted) me? ✏

It’s a archive problem, it seems

None of the messages showed on other clients.

Thanks for helping me out, lovetox :)

> It’s a archive problem, it seems Is this a new setup, are you accessing your devices on the same network, is your server on the same network could it be a hairpinning problem. Messaging will work for the WAN but not the LAN.

I had to enable archiving for the account through one of the clients.

I either forgot to enable it or even disabled it by mistake.

i use Gajim for calls and have an issue where upon accepting a call my microphone does not work. my microphone works if i initiate the call, however. i am on arch linux using pulse and pipewire. i do not receive calls frequently so troubleshooting is difficult. i tried manually setting the input device to "Pulse: Default device" to no avail. i have not found any GitLab issues mentioning this exact issue so thought i would ask here, sorry if this is not the right place for this. thanks in advance for the help