Gajim - 2023-12-28


  1. chili-b

    fjklp, go ahead

  2. fjklp

    chili-b: Thanks for reporting the steps to reproduce this. It's on the tracker now.

  3. Sudouser

    Does anyone use gajim on tails here? I wanna figure out how to setup persistence

  4. shodan

    Is there a way to make the "chat list" panel not pop back on when switching workspace ?

  5. shodan

    I want to put each of my channels in a separate workspace, so that I could only click the workspace icon and not have to ever interact with the chat list panel

  6. shodan

    Because right now, every single time I change "channel" it is a 3 click affair.

  7. Immaculate Taste

    hello, where is the setting to turn of message sync in gajim?

  8. Immaculate Taste

    If there is no option its ok

  9. lovetox

    You can disable that messages are stored on the server

  10. fjklp

    > Because right now, every single time I change "channel" it is a 3 click affair. sounds like a bug

  11. lovetox

    It's 2 clicks

  12. lovetox

    As intended

  13. Immaculate Taste

    > You can disable that messages are stored on the server where would that option be

  14. Immaculate Taste

    and do other clients have similar options?

  15. Immaculate Taste

    like dino and conversations?

  16. fjklp

    1. click workspace, 2. click chat, 3, click hide chat icon

  17. fjklp

    This is sort of necessary currently since gajim does not return to the last used chat in a workspace, so you have to select one

  18. lovetox

    What? Hide chat icon?

  19. fjklp

    I mean hide chat list, my mistake

  20. lovetox

    That's not a necessary step to switch chat

  21. fjklp

    I think he wants to stay in that type of view

  22. fjklp

    I don't know, maybe this is beyond the scope of the intended design

  23. lovetox

    ctrl +n, type, enter

  24. lovetox

    faster and no clicks at all

  25. lovetox

    Immaculate Taste, thats a setting that is for all devices

  26. lovetox

    means the server will not store messages from any device

  27. Immaculate Taste

    lovetox: even dino?

  28. lovetox

    yes

  29. Immaculate Taste

    Oh

  30. Immaculate Taste

    Its a global setting

  31. lovetox

    and only in single chats

  32. lovetox

    you cant turn this of for groupchats

  33. lovetox

    you cant turn this off for groupchats

  34. Immaculate Taste

    Where can i turn of server stored msgs in dino

  35. lovetox

    i dont think you can

  36. Immaculate Taste

    > you cant turn this off for groupchats Like this one?

  37. Immaculate Taste

    > i dont think you can Dino moment

  38. lovetox

    Accounts -> Advanced -> Archiving Preferences

  39. Immaculate Taste

    Thanks so much lovetox

  40. lovetox

    though this will, obviously hinder messages syncing between devices

  41. lovetox

    so this means you will not have the same messages anymore on all devices

  42. Immaculate Taste

    > Accounts -> Advanced -> Archiving Preferences Gajim right?

  43. lovetox

    yes

  44. Immaculate Taste

    > so this means you will not have the same messages anymore on all devices Yeah im keeping it on

  45. shodan

    It is 3 click because I need to close the chatlist as my gajim window is not wide enough for both chatlist and actual chat

  46. shodan

    It would be great if, for workspaces that only contain one chat, it would just open that chat, instead of opening the chatlist and making me click on the one chat

  47. shodan

    Then, I could have many, one chat workspace and switching between chats would be a one click operation. And if I could bind, ctrl+pageup/down to next/previous workspace, then I could use mouse button 4/5 to switch between workspaces !

  48. lovetox

    so what you want is a smaller chatlist

  49. lovetox

    if you want to work with shortcuts you simply put all chats into one workspace and switch chat with shortcuts

  50. shodan

    I rather have no chatlist, here is what my window looks like with chatlist closed

  51. shodan

    https://chat.domn.net:5443/upload/500b07a7efeff7dd5a382d5bf3fa0d30cec686c6/MhXlYMLGn8pFhxMyDeZnGoIwTvvSusACKw6QCOMn/e9142f44-6feb-44fc-8adc-1cc01d2b918e.png

  52. shodan

    https://chat.domn.net:5443/upload/500b07a7efeff7dd5a382d5bf3fa0d30cec686c6/thFDAKdKvDfKjb1pAiz6Ch2ZP3IXYb4vC74e6X4Q/7bf56981-6a24-4e03-8d7d-c89253cf4465.png

  53. lovetox

    yeah ... a workspace is not a chatlist

  54. lovetox

    you have multiple ways of switching chat with shortcuts, without a chatlist

  55. lovetox

    use it, we dont design Gajim for a smartphone sized screen

  56. shodan

    Ok, well is there a way to disable the multiple workspaces and have the left vertical row be the chatrooms ?

  57. fjklp

    what if we allowed the chat list to be resized to a minimum width of zero?

  58. lovetox

    then you dont see notifications anymore

  59. fjklp

    then you could either do the workaround you are doing with one chat per workspace, which is minimum width and shows mention indicators for every chat, or you can set the chat list to only show the chat icon, which a bit wider but more in line with the current intentions

  60. fjklp

    that option seems kind of easy and very adaptive

  61. fjklp

    I say easy without really knowing what has to be changed :) maybe it's a bit more complex than setting min_width=0

  62. lovetox

    hm i dont think its possible

  63. lovetox

    the paned widget resizes the widgets, makes them smaller

  64. lovetox

    but it can only be done for widgets which can shrink

  65. lovetox

    like a text field with ellipsize

  66. lovetox

    i dont think icons can be shrinked

  67. lovetox

    its probably simpler to add a mode where all widgets except the avatar are hidden

  68. shodan

    lovetox, I don't see the notification in chatlist in my case, since it's always minimized, The workspace also have notifications

  69. shodan

    https://chat.domn.net:5443/upload/500b07a7efeff7dd5a382d5bf3fa0d30cec686c6/3b6G7mlVDERxQ97QaGgduYGJ6Ly13frSN1HlkEMm/a0d4b836-2e02-414d-8a39-6ce0b58c3838.png

  70. shodan

    I don't need to see the chatlist ever, if I have only one chat per work space

  71. shodan

    I don't know how the code is structured, but if it could just not change the chatlist display state upon change of workspace, and not unselect the current open chat when changing workspace (maybe internally it would join the last joined chat ?) (or auto join the chat, if the workspace only has one chat)

  72. mlive

    Hi all. Has anyone encountered, with a clean installation of gajim, on Windows 10 and 11 it immediately freezes upon startup?

  73. mlive

    version 1.8.4

  74. lovetox

    hm i think there was a person who had that problem

  75. lovetox

    https://gajim.org/downloads/1.8/

  76. lovetox

    maybe try 1.8.1 and see if it goes away

  77. mlive

    > hm i think there was a person who had that problem Let's wait. Maybe he found a solution to this problem

  78. mlive

    > maybe try 1.8.1 and see if it goes away Thank you. I'll try

  79. lovetox

    ag waut

  80. lovetox

    ah wait

  81. lovetox

    there was some dll problem .. maybe try the nightly?

  82. lovetox

    https://gajim.org/downloads/snap/win/

  83. mlive

    > there was some dll problem .. maybe try the nightly? Fine. I'll try the nightly