Gajim - 2023-12-27

sounds like a bad idea to be honest

but im not seeing something in the code that wouldnt allow that, except does the disco#items query return entries with a "node" attribute?

because we ignore these

ah yeah i see it in the code we assume a MUC component is just that and nothing else

this is probably a bit of a grey area

If I understand the XEP correctly, it should be supported and there is an identity for both returned by the server. It would be nice if that could be supported :)

why do you need that?

I don't nesessearliy need it, but I'd like to have it to keep xmpp stuff on one subdomain

XMPP kinda naturally became designed around microservices

I don't think gajim is the only thing which breaks when bundling things under the same subdomain

Since it is supported from my understanding of the XEP, I wanted to do that anyways

you are asking for trouble

but i will ask around if this is something worth supporting

Okay, thank you

Post-christmas-wish of the hour: When I received cat content (photo), I like to drag'n'drop it from the conversation to a contact in the conversations list of a workspace to "forward" it. Maybe also to roster contact.

That seems a great idea/UI

debacle, there should be a confirmation window "do you want to send ... to jabber:abc@example.com?" to prevent that pictures are sent to the wrong recipient

jstein That dialogue is already there. When I try one or multiple files, I get a confirmation dialog in Gajim. Of course, that must not be circumvented.

On Gentoo we let users decide to add the jingle support or not. I am not sure, if this has side effects or if it worked fine in the past. If jingle is not added in 1.8.4, the user gets Errors on stderr. Is gajim meant to run stable if the jingle dependencies are missing? Perhaps it is time to adjust our package...

https://gitweb.gentoo.org/repo/gentoo.git/tree/net-im/gajim/gajim-1.8.4.ebuild#n63 in line 63

happens the magic with jingle

jstein jingle is the wrong word

what these libs do is enable audio/video functionality

without the gstreamer libs you may be not able to see audio previews for example

jingle is a protocol term which will not help your users to understand whats going on

I think if we allow the users to select "video-support=ON/OFF" then it should not cause an Error, but a Warning (W) Videosupport is Disabled. Libs are missing: ...

dev-python/pycryptodome[${PYTHON_USEDEP}] is wrong

we dont use that library

oh thanks. I will remove it

>=dev-python/dbus-python-1.2.0[${PYTHON_USEDEP}] -> also not used in gajim

dev-python/docutils[${PYTHON_USEDEP}] ) -> also not used

dev-python/python-axolotl[${PYTHON_USEDEP}] -> not used in 1.8.x

dev-python/jaraco-classes[${PYTHON_USEDEP}] -> not directly used, its a dependency probably of python-keyring, so think you can get rid of it in the gajim package

dev-python/secretstorage-3.1.1[${PYTHON_USEDEP}] -> not used in gajim, probably a dependency of python keyring?

dev-python/pycurl[${PYTHON_USEDEP}] -> not used in gajim

dev-python/precis-i18n[${PYTHON_USEDEP}] -> dependency of nbxmpp so you can get rid of it in the gajim package

dev-python/idna[${PYTHON_USEDEP}] -> also dependency of nbxmpp

jstein, ^

Thank you

re: removing yourself from a group i don't think just closing the tab works, tho. this is mostly with transports but even on this muc i've closed chat a few times accidentally and it seemed i was still connected

and it seems like this is per-client; just that the client will forget for the moment

but if you are using multiple clients (gajim, cheogram/conversations) then the "deletion" of the muc won't be synced

so you'll still be on the group

is there anything similar to PART (or LEAVE?) on xmpp ?

yes closing the tab

you will need to believe us that you are not connected afterwards

you can also check this with another account, simply also join the channel and see your other account leave

ohh ok, thanks!

also -- is there any way to ignore nicks ?

no

Sorry, I asked that before, but I did not understood the answer: Can I (locally) change the appearing name of a MUC? Some public MUCs have not very intuitive or non-unique names, esp. when using transports...

yes. At the top right, Chat Details and Settings > Settings > click pencil icon at top right

Just don't let this confuse you in the future, after you forget that you did this, into believing there is a bug where gajim is not displaying the correct muc name as I did.

Is gajim using an UP server and can the UP server be changed / configured as in conversations?

what about a DOWN server? 😀

mirux, whats an UP server?

UnifyPush?

fjklp Thanks! I got the answer already, but couldn't parse it. Probably mentioning the pencil icon was key. And of course, I'll file bugs against Gajim when the MUC name is not correct! ;-)

I too find the pencil icon easy to miss/associate here, and some other places

Lovetox unified push

> UnifyPush? Yep

Why would Gajim need this?

Gajim is not a smartphone client

I've noticed that despite the fixes to focusing the text message box, whenever I send an image, the chat title is highlighted when focus returns to the main window

since the message input box gets focus as soon as I start typing, this seems mostly visual, but I think it's still worth noting

Is this a knows issue? I'm not sure how to describe it any better

it's been known to happen, it's annoying

just so we're on the same page, the steps to reproduce are to have an image in your clipboard, CTRL+V to open the send dialogue, then either send the image or cancel and when the normal chat view returns the chat title is highlighted and the message box loses focus

it's also worth noting that this *doesn't* happen if you open the send file dialogue by clicking the paperclip button to the right of the message box

I just tested and it didn't happen, but it happens to me sometimes by other means that I don't remember

strange, it's not happening to me either now. the steps i described definitely make it happen some of the time, though

If i close gajim and then do the steps i described immediately after opening it again, i can consistently reproduce the problem

chili-b: do you cancel by pressing the cancel button?

fjklp, no, i've been pressing the escape key

I was able to reproduce it that way after restarting gajim

pressing the cancel button does the same

maybe I'll make an issue on the tracker, unless you want to