Gajim - 2023-12-14

OOBs support neither captions nor multiple files per a message at the moment. I can have all of that Gajim 1.3 with the Url image preview plugin, which just replaces arbitrary links in the text with downloaded images, and does not expect any OOBs. Are there any XEP drafts for albums and captions already?

BTW, OOBs pop up as windows per every message in Tkabber, which is annoying.

Without gir1.2-gsound-1.0, Gajim doesn't play notification sounds. So this is listed as a recommended dependency. I was wondering why pulseaudio-utils / sox / alsa-utils are also recommended in the debian package. Does these serve some purpose that GSound doesn't? Just curious. ✏

You need to ask the debian maintainer

> You need to ask the debian maintainer Good luck, update once a year. ↺

> polarian wrote: >> You need to ask the debian maintainer > Good luck, update once a year. More than enough.

cal0pteryx, lovetox, text of right click menu upon (colored) nicknames is bold (as nicknames).

1.8.4

sch: can we have a screenshot please?

Yes

https://xmpp.pimux.de/file_share/8e04a7df-2534-450d-bd87-56eabc815eeb/456.png

https://xmpp.pimux.de/file_share/1a703dad-e402-4fba-a966-d4f507919694/123.png

I don't understand what I'm seeing. If you want to claim a bug please use the default theme: Adwaita

The same with grey selections when you trying to right-click some text in quote.

It has been reported, sch.

In a word. The format of text in chat window is applied in quick-menu too.

sch: seems rather a different anti-aliasing than "boldness".

You could investigate it with GTK+3 inspector to be sure (yet it should be hard for context menus probably).

My guess is bold because Gajim previously had a larger/smaller content menu if custom font size was enabled.

bodqhrohro, do you have a recommended tutorial for GTK+3 inspector?

sch: nope, it's intuitive enough for me :P

Thank you, ☭Mike Yellow

Alright, I'll take a look, bodqhrohro. Thank you.

I think I found a bug. When I quit Gajim with an account disabled (which I did from 'Modify Accounts' window), Gajim spits out the following traceback

Traceback (most recent call last): https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/a492a103-7bc9-4317-af1a-a4b79c585778

but when Gajim is restarted, everything seems to be fine.

is this traceback worth a new issue?

bodqhrohro: there's SIMS or SFS that are better than OOB. Not widely adopted yet though

0385 / 0447

bodqhrohro, what do you think of this? `code` ``` code ```

https://xmpp.pimux.de/file_share/5f5a6d9c-2408-439d-aaaf-60fe0c3b0354/789.png

https://xmpp.pimux.de/file_share/7ffb2750-0420-4532-8100-92e5f6cbe0ca/789b.png

cal0pteryx, font changes for code blocks.

Content menu upon inline code seems to appear as expected.

There are menu items that should not be shown in chat view (i.e. read only area).

sch: you still haven't applied the default theme. Please use adwaita for testing. Only then we can rule out a broken theme

OK

Adwaita can be enabled via the inspector too, BTW.

any good folk here has a tested recipe for a seamless backup and restore of `$HOME/.config/gajim` and `$HOME/.local/share/gajim` across machines ? ✏

I ran Gajim fine for a few days with custom XDG_DATA_HOME, XDG_CONFIG_HOME and XDG_CACHE_HOME passed at the start

suppose $PWD/GAJIM_DATA

Then one day I tarballed GAJIM_DATA and `rm -r`-ed GAJIM_DATA

when I restored $PWD/GAJIM_DATA from the tarball and started Gajim with the same environment variables and all was fine except OMEMO.

for some contacts it was fine, but for some other contacts I was getting "This message was encrypted with None and could not be decrypted." quite frequently.

If I have to move GAJIM_DATA across machines or even directories, is this behavior to be expected?

looking forward to you folks' valuable inputs on this

you can only move omemo data if no Gajim client is online

otherwise you will see this error often, and you need to reset all sessions, by deleting the fingerprints of your contacts

> you can only move omemo data if no Gajim client is online would you please elaborate a little? I tarballed GAJIM_DATA after quitting Gajim. Is that what you meant by "no client is online"? I'm afraid I didn't get you. ✏

omemo gets out of sync

if gajim remains onlone

after

the tarball has been made

and isn't transfered yet

if I make a backup I have to close gajin and stop using it until I transfer

otherwise the session will not be aligned with my contacts

umu: thanks a ton for clarifying.

npnp

so the best possible steps are: 1. quit Gajim 2. make tarball 3. delete GAJIM_DATA 4. do my own stuff 5. restore GAJIM_DATA from tarball 6. be happy

is this OK?

yeee

I can't thank you enough umu. 😄. You saved me a lot of headache.

I was a bit lost dealing with OMEMO issues

> otherwise you will see this error often, and you need to reset all sessions, by deleting the fingerprints of your contacts trying to get my head around it. 🤔 So if I delete all fingerprints of a contact, then I have no fingerprints that belong to him. But potentially, he still has my previous fingerprints. He will probably encrypt next messages with those fingerprints and consequently the messages will still be unreadable on my end. I probably missed something?

u need to reset ur omemo key because ur contact is sending to an invalid temporary key

their client thinks you own that temporary key

if you make a new omemo key then you have a new omemo session and in sync temporary keys

oh I see.

Is there an easy way to make a new OMEMO key or session from inside Gajim. I searched for a relevant looking button but didn't quite find it. ✏

yee there's no omemo reset button which would be a good feature tbh

idk what file you need to delete to reset it

I usually just remove an account and add it back

I'll have to remember this workaround.

until the reset button arrives.

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the message input field text has been back to frequently displaying darkened. I wonder why.

kurion, umu, never suggest anyone to reset his omemo state

this almost never helps the problem and simply creates many fingerprints your contacts see then

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kurion, if you delete a fingerprint, of your contact, it will show up again after a restart

write the contact a quick message, and session will be new

> umu wrote: > if I make a backup I have to close gajin and stop using it until I transfer Yes, that's even written on Conversations guide to migrate between devices/installs. The app can't be used after backup or the OMEMO will break. Looks like it applies also with other software.