Gajim - 2023-12-09

I just experienced a new bug, not sure what happened there

I couldn't see the last message I posted, nor your response until I restarted gajim

no new messages were showing up in any chat

> just describe what you think is happening alright

I wonder if having a second profile open at the same time can interfere with this profile? I did have another opened which is unusual for me.

sqlite3.OperationalError: database is locked

hmm, not sure what happened there

Too much testing ;)

lol

perhaps

Should I not be running multiple gajim profiles concurrently?

I use the Gajim client, I have a few questions to better understand things: 1) The XMPP server my XMPP account operates on says it stores messages and files for only X number of days, after X days they are deleted from that server. When they are deleted from the server, is that deletion sync'd with my desktop computer and those messages and files older then X days are also deleted from my desktop computer? 2) In the Gajim app, how do I delete a specific message from the desktop computer? By using the "Delete Messages Locally" option? 3) In Gajim, how do I specify to always delete all messages from the desktop computer that are older than X days? 4) For questions #2 and #3 above: Do those actions delete from the desktop computer the messages only, or also any associated files (audio, video, photo, etc.)? 5) Once I delete a message from the desktop computer, will that deletion then be sync'd with the XMPP server and then deleted from the server?

1. no 2. yes

for 2, I verified that it actually deletes the message from the local database

3. go to Accounts > account name > Privacy > Keep Chat History and select how long to keep local chat history. I have not yet verified that this works but I will. 4. When you select to 'Delete Messages Locally': For text, it is deleted from your local database. For media files such as images, audio and video files, it will only prevent gajim from displaying them. You would have to manually find and delete them, which isn't convenient unless you are willing to delete everything or everything within a time range. You can't do that from within gajim.

5. No. There is an xmpp feature that can do this, called message retraction, but gajim does not do this. Even if you used a client that did, you should verify that it does what you expect it to do on the server, which might vary between servers. If you really want to be sure, run your own server. Otherwise, use a server run by someone you trust.

Don't forget that MUC messages are stored on the MUC server, not your account server.

3. I verified that when I set Keep Chat History = Until Gajim is Closed, it does delete the messages from the local database when gajim is closed

fjklp, thank you very much!!

You also have an option at Gajim > Preference > Advanced > Purge Chat History that will delete all local messages

you're welcome

"3. go to Accounts > account name > Privacy > Keep Chat History and select how long to keep local chat history. " I have Gajim 1.8.4, and I don't have that menu path. Under "Accounts" if I select the account's name, there is no menu item called "Privacy"

woops, my mistake

that's okay, I found it

Accounts > Modify Accounts > account name > Privacy

yep

also, I forgot you can go the the 'Chat Details and Settings' button at the top right, then Settings, then Purge Chat History, to purge that one chat

Do you mean, "CONTACT Details and Settings" button????

for me the tooltip says 'Chat Details and Settings', and when I open it, it's called 'Group Chat Details', for a group chat

interesting. Well, slight variation in wording I guess

Oh, looks like this was actually changed on December 1. I'm on the nightly release.

Ok, makes sense. (I'm not brave enough to use nightly releases, so I'm somewhat behind I guess.)

I spoke too soon. At least when I do the Purge Chat History for the entire app, upon restarting, gajim downloads everything from the server again, lol

I don't know whether this should be considered a bug or not.

Yes I would say this is not intended

And I doubt everythink

It's probably for your account the last 7 days

hm or maybe was it

its a way to reset your archive status

the other delete options should work

they did

it does delete all messages, then downloads them after restart

no all, it resets the archive status

this means it is like you setup Gajim on a new machine

I'm not sure what you mean. I tried it on a setup that only had a few recent messages, no old ones. I did the purge chat thing and gajim closed. I read the logs.db and the messages were all gone. Then on restart it downloads them from mam.

but not "all"

your all is probably a 1 day old account

but gajim only downloads 7 days of history

thats not "all" for a lot of people

Interesting conversation you're having. I have a related question: Let's say I have a friend. His server stores messages for an unlimited time. My server stores messages for a month. We both use Gajim. How would this work and depending on what settings? After 30 days the messages will be deleted from the server but will remain in my client? Can I import messages from my client to the other, saving the chat history? Also, if _his_ server is storing messages for an unlimited time, is there any way to download chat history with me from his server?

My Gajim privacy settings are set to store chat history forever. His too.

Is fjklp the official tester? 😄 he/she's testing a lot of things for gajim!!

yes, he is our single person QA unit

huuh, no to all questions :)

there is also no setting

you can influence the data the server stores, you need to maintain your own server or choose one that has sensible policies

> huuh, no to all questions :) can you elaborate?

hello, I've installed G1.7.3 (debian repo) and gspell-1-test. In Settings/Chats Spell Checking is grayed out.

beduk: try gir1.2-gspell-1

gir1.2-gspell-1 - it works - thank you!

How do I manually add contact's OMEMO fingerprint? ✏

You cant

If it does not show up it's not published

> not published What does it mean? He wrote his OMEMO fingerprint on his webpage

huuh, that is to match against the fingerprint detected to prevent MITM

I don't get it

How does one publish his OMEMO fingerprint? Where can I read how does it work?

like in Profanity client you type `/omemo gen` and it includes publishing, right?

where does it publish it? where the fingerprint data is stored? on JID's server?

Yes on your server

The client publishes it

And the other client downloads it

okay so writing your OMEMO fingerprint on your webpage is just for validating purposes? ✏

Yes

Does Gajim support <unstyled> tag? https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0393.html#disable

Nope

Is there an open issue about this?

We would only implement this if a client really sends it

What do you mean? What if I want to send it?

use the xml console to send it :)