Gajim - 2023-12-01

No such thing as dumb questions, only dumb answers.

how do i type

Sometimes trolls are easy to identify, sometimes not. In this case, it is the former.

Hello all. How can I get source tarballs for older versions?

kurion, https://gajim.org/downloads/

@agh, great! thanks a lot

kurion, I found that at the bottom of https://gajim.org/download/

The only diff between those two links is the trailing s

agh: Now I see it. Didn't look for it with a keen eye before.

Oh I knew about it from a few days ago when I last went looking for older releases. ✏

Otherwise I would have missed it again.

I had cloned 1.8.1 and made some changes and extra shortcuts for it and am running it from a dev env.

I don't really want to have it installed in my system.

what could be the best way to _generate a source tarball for my version?

Will deleting the .git, debian, flatpak, mac, win etc. folder be enough?

Generating tarballs from local checkouts... no idea, sorry.

Surely it has to be done via a some central Git host, like GitHub?

do you really need to delete anything?

fjklp: For tarballs, yes. I mean, the .git folder weighs ~125 Mb

good point

I never checked

a --depth=1 clone of 1.8.1 was ~135 MB. And the source tarball for 1.8.1 is, to my surprise, ~15 MB. ✏

did you post the same message twice?

oh, MB, not Mb

just wondering if my client or the server is messing up

I corrected a typo in my previous message.

kurion, what client did you use to correct the message?

Recently, I have been observing that phenomenon with concerning regularity, from my on edits, or others.

agh: Psi+

Cheers

kurion: isn't tarball just the latest source, while clone is the whole history of the development?

It has everything in it, so I guess that's why it's heavier.

> isn't tarball just the latest source, while clone is the whole history of the development? yes. that is exactly the case

what are the instructions for installing/running gajim from the source tarball on a generic linux system ?

I tried with creating a venv and doing a `pip install .` . It installed many of the needed modules and got stuck while trying to build nbxmpp.

> the problem was I think disk latency. This new server has SSD, so I hope things will be fixed Thanks asterix! ↺

> what could be the best way to _generate a source tarball for my version? kurion: You could try `git archive` https://git-scm.com/docs/git-archive

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Hi. I've upgraded my Gajim from an ooooold git checkout to 1.8.4 from Debian and now I can't open the Accounts dialog any more. Nothing happens at the first attempt, and following attempts open an empty window. There is nothing related in stdout or XML Console/log

and I don't very much want to delete my whole config and history

P.S: I have a problem with my server setup, and it just keeps showing "connecting (desynced)" but no meaningful error message, the message in the XML Console/log is: 12/01/2023 11:36:46 (E) nbxmpp.connection | (yax.im) Write Error: g-tls-error-quark: Peer sent fatal TLS alert: The server name sent was not recognized (1) 12/01/2023 11:36:46 (E) nbxmpp.connection | (yax.im) Handshake failed: g-tls-error-quark: Peer sent fatal TLS alert: The server name sent was not recognized (1) 12/01/2023 11:36:46 (E) nbxmpp.stream | (yax.im) Unable to connect to yax.im

(I'm aware of the server problem, but it would be great to see the error or some other error in the UI)

Ge0rG: are we talking about a Linux machine?

Any errors in the console if you open the account window?

I mean the terminal not the XML console

Ah you wrote debian

I give 50 € pizza grant for those who solve #10333 in a Gajim release. But probably this cannot be solved with money, but with programming hours.

debacle, i will keep that in mind, I have some free time these days. No promises. Appreciate the open offering.

lovetox: franken-Debian, but I hope I got all the related packages to current sid. Nothin on the terminal

well, there is this from the start of gajim, not from opening the accounts window: (org.gajim.Gajim:1917717): Gdk-CRITICAL **: 11:36:33.683: gdk_window_thaw_toplevel_updates: assertion 'window->update_and_descendants_freeze_count > 0' failed

j: no need. Message reactions are planned with the database refactor, and the GUI parts are already done.

Are there any plans to restore a detached History Browser dialog?

no, what for?

Ge0rG, without error, its hard to debug, we have no reports about and empty accounts dialog

you could try to get more info and place a few prints in gajim/gtk/accounts.py

there is near the top a "show_all()" call

lovetox: I agree about the hard-to-debug, but I lack the energy for printf-debugging right now, sorry

i would be interested if the code every reaches that

it's probably a f***up on my end, before upgrading the deps gajim was segfaulting the python interpreter...

understandable, just trying to help you

you could try the flatpak from flathub

which would be more isolated

so if it's not a known issue, I'll probably try again when I have more time and energy and use git

and you never have to deal with dependencies

lovetox: it won't use my existing config, will it?

it can with a little copy/paste

https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/tree/master/flatpak#migrate-your-data

thanks!

It seems like the tooltip for a contact should tell with text what is the status since we might not know the meaning of the dot

it's traffic light colored. not much to understand there :D

also: it does in the chat banner

yeah, I get that it's debatable if it makes sense

but there really isn't a 1:1 correlation of the meanings, to the extent that that is true

I think the way it's displayed in the chat banner is best

but the tooltip does

beside the dot it says what it means

not in the group chat roster

it does for me

the tooltip btw is everywhere the same

there is a green dot - Available (Resource)

the group chat roster tooltip does not give a text description of status for me

ah ok you talk about groupchat

yes it should be harmonized with the contact tooltip

should I make an issue for that?

I don't know if you just prefer to track stuff in your head

j cal0pteryx I'm happy, that my pizza invitation offer gets positive feedback :-)

fjklp, yeah if you want, im not good tracking things in my head

I love the pizza offer. I say it should be paid out to cal0pteryx, even if he already started on it.

lovetox: alright

debacle: I do want that feature, too. But the database refactor touches a lot of code, and that takes some time :)

A recent update from the flatpak version of Gajim caused it to start defaulting to kwallet instead of gnome-keyring. Any way to change it back? I don't have kwallet setup, it's just installed as a dependency for kdeconnect. I had to kill the kwallet daemon and prevent it from starting up again to get Gajim to use the gnome-keyring again

QStambaugh: https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/wikis/keyring

I wonder if this is actually a gajim change. I think gajim just follows the priority reported by the python keyring interface thing

Ah okay, thank you!

Hmm, maybe there was an update to kwallet or some other bit of software that changed the preference then

QStambaugh: `keyring --list-backends` shows the backends and their priority

usually you cant have 2 keyring daemons running

I'll mess around with it on my pinephone. My other systems were using gnome anyway, so I dropped kdeconnect in favor of gsconnect so I wouldn't have to worry about being spammed with kwallet prompts

I never setup the kwallet keyring. I'm sure it would have been fine if I followed the prompt to setup a keyring

set it up

why care in what keyring some passwords are stored