Gajim - 2023-11-29

Gitlab is so irritating. It wont let me open an issue!

it thinks I'm spamming

any other way to report issue?

It sucks how open-source is now synomous with surveillance and outright shit software platforms, it is a toxic barrier to entry for new people.

aura: sorry, I've experienced this too. Is it doing it on initial creation or on an edit? I've had it happen for a small edit and I had to add an extra nonsense sentence to get it to accept it.

I'm getting it on creation itself :/

it's especially frustrating when you have made many issues and that doesn't give you a pass ✏

I agree, it's a problem.

this is actually a problem I've noticed on another self hosted gitlab instance too ✏

you can post your issue here if you don't want to wait

Sure, its not really a show stopped but a minor annoyance. Title: Perceivable delay when switching MUCs or sending a new message. Details: I have some a few active MUCs of various software projects. When switching between them, I often notice a delay before the MUC view is shown.

Also, when sending a message, there is a delay before the message becomes part of the Chat view. My guess is, the message is displayed in the chat view only after its encrypted and sent. However, if its displayed first, and then encrypted and sent, it would provide a faster "User experience"

On the delay when switching chats, that is normal depending on how long it takes. If it's a chat with hundreds or thousands of people, closing the roster view will speed it up.

As far as I know, sent messages don't display on your chat view until a response is received from the MUC server. So, the delay is almost certainly not due to gajim.

I do think this is going to change soon with a pending message type thing

> I do think this is going to change soon with a pending message type thing That would be nice!

As a matter of fact, I think there was some network issue right now I guess. The above messgae took a good 10 seconds before it appeared in the chat view *after* I composed it and hit enter. There was no indication that the message is "waiting to be sent"

> On the delay when switching chats, that is normal depending on how long it takes. If it's a chat with hundreds or thousands of people, closing the roster view will speed it up. I dont quite think so. I compared it with Dino. It does not have such a delay.

> On the delay when switching chats, that is normal depending on how long it takes. If it's a chat with hundreds or thousands of people, closing the roster view will speed it up. I think you're be right here afterall. Now that you've mentioned, I can sense it being slightly faster. Besides, dino doesnt have the roster enabled in the view by default

I bet solving this would require some kinda caching for the roster inorder to make it really snappy

aura: are you using a recent gajim version? Switching chats has seen some performance improvements in the last versions

Wo ist Herr Gajim?

Hi guys, I couldn't find any documentation on Gajim plugin development. Are there any guidelines, API reference or something?

Not really there is a git repository with many plugins

Otherwise you can ask questions here

cal0pteryx: I'm on 1.8.4, isnt that the most recent release?

aura: y3w ✏

aura: yes ✏

Any clue how much your forge takes storage-wise? Also what's the criteria to get an account, and what kind of projects are allowed on it?

our gitlab instance?

pep., not clear what you are talking about

Yeah your gitlab instance

it only hosts Gajim projects

you can fork a Gajim project to contribute to it, nothing else is allowed

Ok

How much space is that total?

there are no space limitations

Not what I'm asking

are you asking how big a Gajim fork is?

How much space is used for your gitlab instance ✏

repositories and forks takes 5G

Thanks

(one day we should do some cleanup on all those forks ...)

not sure if its worth if its only 5 GB

but yeah i can simply delete some old projects

Hi, the flatpak started to try to open kde wallet instead of seahorse/libsecret for passwords. Anyone else has a similar issue?

hm seems you need to alter the priority of the backend if you have multiple ones installed

you can read here in the readme more

https://pypi.org/project/keyring/

if you start gajim from console it lists all found backends at start

then you can choose one and either use a config file or env var

lovetox: thx

Ich möchte den halben Bildschirm enem richtigen editor spendieren

nin, i tried to add a wiki page https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/wikis/keyring

yxcv: this is a support chat for gajim. what's your question?

please write in english

lovetox: ok. Did try but all of them but ChainerBackend and kwallet.DBusKeyring crash

what do you mean by "crash"

Does anyone know if there is a xmpp server for pidgin?

Daniel Brötzmann pushed 3 commits to branch _refs/heads/master_ of _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim >: *9373e7b4* < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/9373e7b4847a28bff397fbfc600b4e1566aa7543 > cfix: StartChat: Use fitting variable name for GroupBadge *42fe9dab* < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/42fe9dabc01ed5c812bd8c74cce6e975789da4d4 > cfix: Improve string formatting for idle time helper *2e640174* < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/2e6401745bfdd12693167e1c237d61b981ee800e > imprv: StartChat: Improve label layout