Gajim - 2023-11-16

lovetox, i want to send raw irc messages and thus need to send to irc.server.org@biboumi.example.com

lovetox, specifically -- i want to set sasl password for a network

hmm i can join now after a restart -- i think this may be a problem when i close the chat and try to join again

Hey, since some days, Gajim is unable to downloads attachments made from the Android Conversations application. It show a placeholder with aesgcm link and state download failed. Any idea ? It is omemo sent files.

Check the logs

how ?

there seems to be no way trying to request download ✏

ok, xml log show that it could be related to TLS

``` 16/11/2023 11:43:27 (W) gajim.c.preview | Download failed: https://upload.quicksy.im/109b50ed93dc72aeb5e8a03fa05471e4a818b4f4/GakU2GIgpyrQCrNWDZxkKpQocWkS0uMS8U9vbX2G/LGrsN-mRRTSnJBiGLrG-Tg.m4a - <HTTPRequestError.UNKNOWN: 0> 16/11/2023 11:43:28 (W) gajim.c.preview | TLS verification failed: ["L'autorité de certification est inconnue"] (0x01) 16/11/2023 11:43:28 (E) nbxmpp.http | Request(140603874596800): g-tls-error-quark: Certificat TLS inacceptable (2) 16/11/2023 11:43:28 (W) gajim.c.preview | Download failed: https://upload.movim.eu/files/d57e6a09a8a0fe11592d819de7e3a279552124db/7eQPhYTlDANS/8brNith-T4eBQBnsOBoAgw.jpg - <HTTPRequestError.UNKNOWN: 0> ```

I'm using the flatpak version of the application

I do use an account on movim.eu and the other contact use quicksy.im account

lovetox, ring something ?

hi all

what KDF OMEMO uses?

bcrypt?

Why would it use any KDF? https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0384.html

Hello. I can install the current version of Gajim but cannot open it. Using Windows 11.

John_: could you try starting gajim by using gajim-debug.exe?

You'll find it in the install directory in the /bin folder

P@sNox, seems your system cert store think these certs are invalid

@cal0pteryx doesn’t work

John_, then I'm afraid you are out of luck, sorry. Does it open a console window for you (even shortly) ?

> John_, then I'm afraid you are out of luck, sorry. Does it open a console window for you (even shortly) ? No, it does absolutely nothing.

sounds weird, can you try to start gajim from a windows console

https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/issues/11693

probably, the easiest solution is to save files to a separate directory named after the xmpp address of the chat

> probably, the easiest solution is to save files to a separate directory named after the xmpp address of the chat That is only half the problem, though. ↺

Seems to be a duplicate of https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/issues/11285

Gajim does not name the files according to the date they were sent or received

I guess it's a bit more complex than that. Something like `user@example.com-somechat@example.com` for a muc and `user@example.com-otheruser@example.com` for direct chats ✏

> Seems to be a duplicate of https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/issues/11285 "media collection browser", strange wording, which is why I didn't find it before creating an issue myself... But yeah. ↺

I did make a script to make browsing media filesmore sensible but I haven't been messing with it and I don't remember exactly what it does ✏

I did make a script to make browsing media files more sensible but I haven't been messing with it and I don't remember exactly what it does ✏

I added an alternative suggestion to implement this: to allow previews in the search pane. That would actually really nice, because it would in theory also allow you to jump to that part of the conversation.

> I guess it's a bit more complex than that. Something like `user@example.com-somechat@example.com` for a muc and `user@example.com-otheruser@example.com` for direct chats People wouldn't browse to those folders anyway, too much hassle, not user-friendly. Plus, as said, the files wouldn't be ordered by date anyway, with the current (lack of) renaming. ↺

of all the things I could improve in gajim, I would choose other things first, just speaking for myself

Hmz, it's something I run into at least weekly, to be honest. "How the hell do I find that one image without scrolling a chat for half an hour?"

"...or by scrolling through `UserData/uploads` for half an hour?"

yeah, I can imagine that being frustrating, I know I get frustrated trying to find things that I know exist. It's just that I don't frequently go looking for images in gajim.

Yeah, I suppose that all depends on how and with whom you're using XMPP

if you are in linux, list the media files with `ls -lrt` to show modification time (saved time), sort by modification time with most recent being last

or use a GUI file manager but RIP if you do that in a directory with many files ✏

True, I already order the folder by modtime of course, but then everything from every chat is bundled together. If you have even 1 busy MUC, you'll be searching for quite a while. ✏

my script makes an index of files, divided into sections like what muc it's from