Gajim - 2023-11-14

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fjklp, > tomchaplin: are you not joined to the chat in which you want to set the nick? Are you specifically wanting to change your nick while not joined? I am already joined to the chat. and in the same room i am trying to use the /nick newnick command but it says unknown command nick.

> you need to do that in the private conversations with irc.snoonet.org@irc.jabberfr.org Hey lovetox, i tried there also, again I get the same error. Unknown command nick.

I didn't know you were using an irc bridge at the time. Lovetox made an update that should fix this just some hours back.

oh is that so.

yeah, I tested it and it worked for me

What should I do for the update to take place on my side?

that depends on what installation method you are using or want to use

you can run from source, or do a nightly install

or just wait for a new release

you mean nightly install of Gajim?!

yes

oh ok.

I can try that

Oh well, I need to ask this question. First I installed a Gajim Portable version. and it installed like a normal installation. but I dont know where did it got installed?!

then I installed the Gajim normal desktop version. and been using that

So I want to know, how to uninstall the portable version.

I don't know about the portable version so I'll let someone else answer

cool, no problem

Do I need to uninstall the Stable version to install the nightly version? will it replace the stable version or install a new on the side?

> what biboumi does not get right, is it trys to join me into channel before executing the identify command You should probably use sasl here instead for servers who support it, that will work better.

For the rest of the servers maybe some delay could be introduced somehow, but it's not because there's a command to be applied after connect that's configured that it means there's authentication in it.

tomchaplin: you need to type the command without slash

I've run into a really weird bug. Every time I create a new group chat on a certain server, after restarting gajim, the chat acquires the same name each time in most places of the UI

I thought it might have been due to a recent gajim change, but I just did a `git checkout 1.8.2` and it's still happening

I don't know if a corrupted database could cause this?

what I mean by same name is that I've created more than 5 separate group chats that are simultaneously showing the same random 5 character name

How do I change passwords on gajim?

Unrelated, it may be good to add a "Cancel" button in the confirmation dialog for the account removal?

I know it's possible to kill the dialog but I'm not sure how many would get it? I guess though window manager also offer a "Close" button in the decorations but :/

pep.: Accounts > Modify Accounts > SomeAccount > General > Login

does anyone know how hard it is to add a configuration search to a program? I'm a fan of those.

Ah thanks

if I wanted to test if my gajim logs are the cause of my weird new group chat name problem, should I just move all ~/.local/share/gajim/logs* to a backup location and restart gajim?

你好

Hi Wangjing and welcome, English is preferred here

pep.: we don't have cancel buttons, except maybe in a adhoc dialog

hmm ok. That's a GNOME thing?

Hm no not necessarily, it's a UX decision you have to make

Ok

We only add cancel buttons if it has some kind of effect

Like not commit changes you have made

Hi. How is it possible to write messages starting with / like unix paths? Before I could prepend a / to mask the command character. In latest versions this only results in /help/my/path/...

I deleted my cache.db, then restarted gajim. After restarting, gajim applied the name of the most recently created group chat to many of the other recently created group chats.

Any ideas?

zak: double the slash, eg //some/path

nicoco: This only results in /help/my/path/...

Is it possible to disable this command feature completely?

you can put a space first

Okay. Workaround, but yes, that works.

is it normal that I can sometimes rejoin a group chat after I destroy it?

fjklp: maybe it just re-creates the room? XEP-0045 says: > Other than the foregoing, this document does not specify what (if anything) a MUC service implementation shall do as a result of a room destruction request. For example, if the room was defined as persistent, an implementation MAY choose to lock the room ID so that it cannot be re-used, redirect enter requests to the alternate venue, or invite the current participants to the new room; however, such behavior is OPTIONAL.

> nicoco: This only results in /help/my/path/... zak: I’m not sure I understood what you meant if this is not what you wanted? I don’t know if it is possible to disable commands completely.

nicoco: It is not possible to write a message starting directly with two slashes currently afaik. Just try for yourself.

when the rejoin happens, it shows the property of 'Temporary'

Not on gajim right now but OK, you wanted 2 slashes, I didn’t understand

https://upload.gajim.org:5281/upload/CXQ7Q9os60s-tDjuwpzA2ArV/6c0bc679-4615-4cdc-a746-8b97a775e70d.png

fjklp: if it was not temporary before, then it means it was destroyed and joining just created a new one? Maybe there are (server-side) MUC service implementations that forbid destroyed MUC JID reuse, but I don’t know about it. ✏

Prosody does.

hmm, seems there's something weird going on with this server

It will place a temporary tombstone on a JID, which will expire about some time to prevent exactly this issue.

either that or gajim is being buggy and claiming to have destroyed the chat when all it did was leave

No.

chud Which libraries do I need for your dtls-rtp branch and where can I get them? I'm stuck at libdatachannel, but maybe there are more? Thank you!

debacle: libdatachannel and these bindings https://github.com/wusspuss/libdatachannel-python (I'll probably rework them later)

thank you again, lovetox

chud Thanks, I'll look into both projects. Btw. there is a little typo: "generated no the spot".

Lol

Yeah

I've never done bindings before. I'm not even sure if automated generation actually makes sense for such a small API. Maybe I should just do it by hand.

Also I'm not even sure how bindings are supposed to be versioned. Just same version as the library that the bindings are for?

chud I'm not sure, but my intuition is that it should be the same version. I'm a little bit worried about the use of Tcl in the build process. Nothing wrong with Tcl, of course, but it is an additional huge dependency. ✏

Yes I know. The bindings are quick-and-dirty, I should replace Tcl

chud Good! Anyway, it wouldn't be a showstopper, I guess.

real

Philipp Hörist pushed 1 commit to branch _refs/heads/master_ of _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim >: *f6cfa352* < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/f6cfa352d2a32fe2b5311f735a6c836ebe62770c > imprv: Passwords: Use JID as username instead of account Fixes #11684

Philipp Hörist pushed 1 commit to branch _refs/heads/master_ of _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim >: *e21fe055* < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/e21fe0558de49425573fd3bf72386af73f6af3fc > feat: Add shortcuts for quoting previous messages

chud, I tested your webpack

*flatpak lol

it’s working, okay-ish

audio connection was made between two gajim instances and between gajim and conversation

the UI is to be completed/reviewed, but main feature is there

but the audio has some delay, about 1 second or so

I tested this with a friend by counting from 1, and increment the number as soon as we hear the previous one

and we noticed about 1 second delay on both side

With the same network, no delay on jitsi

don’t know if this is usefull feedback or not…

asterix lovetox cal0pteryx If you consider the work by chud interesting enough to merge it, please inform me ASAP. I would need to package libdatachannel and libdatachannel-python, which is some work, and there is always a delay with the Debian NEW queue.

actually I'm working on getting a cleaner version of libdatachannel-python, single-file, with no Tcl. Should be done tomorrow or the day after I think

i think there is still much work done, so no hurry

hi! can I (intelfx) please get permissions to create a fork on dev.gajim.org?

btw I'm working on an implementation of DTLS-SRTP for A/V using the existing gstreamer+farstream RTP stack :-) should be less new code than libdatachannel

I've also reworked parts of jingle implementation to hopefully make it more robust and maintainable

intelfx: that's great :) who would have thought that there are two people working on A/V

intelfx, should work now

thanks!

FYI, https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/merge_requests/995

also installable from https://intelfx.name/flatpak/intelfx.flatpakrepo (org.gajim.Gajim.Devel)

wow, cool

Sorry for all my noise, but has anyone ever seen what I described where creating newly created group chats all get renamed to the same name after a gajim restart? I'm just trying to save a bit of time if it's a known thing. ✏

Sorry for all my noise, but has anyone ever seen what I described where newly created group chats all get renamed to the same name after a gajim restart? I'm just trying to save a bit of time if it's a known thing. ✏

deleting my cache.db did not resolve it

never seen that

where are all the places that a group chat name get stored? if you happen to know

I'm guessing there is some server-side storage

stored in bookmarks on the server

thanks