Gajim - 2023-11-07

hey.. how do i set gajim to auto start ?

How can install omemo plugin on linux when i downloaded gajim from flathib

Flatgub*

satish: it depends on your OS.

nosystemissafe: there is no omemo plugin anymore, it’s included in base gajim

👏

On Windows?

satish: either you check the checkbox while installing gajim, or you add it to Autostart like any other windows app (start > Autostart folder)

satish: How did you install Gajim?

Philipp Hörist pushed 1 commit to branch _refs/heads/master_ of _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim >: *e59dd99d* < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/e59dd99d32d40123cf8f07e549a44546d975da80 > refactor: Presence: Create contact as late as possible

Sometimes after resuming from suspend on Windows, Gajim will keep connecting forever

need debug logs of such occurence

hey. i have a person who gets an error connecting to nixnet.services the error is: Insecure Connection You are about to connect to nixnet.services using an insecure connection method. Connecting with Plain is strongly discouraged. they already tried restarting the client and it didnt fix the issue. this is flatpak and version 1.8.1

i just want to double check that this is a server issue at this point right?

although cheogram either connects silently with plain or its only gajim that has the problem. hence the question here ^^

mimi89999: installer / exe?!

MSavoritias (fae,ve), he needs to disable plain connection in account options

otherwise he will connect unencrypted

ah that was the issue

thank you

you can ask him/her, what has led him to activate that option ✏

you can ask him/her, what has led them to activate that option ✏

you can ask them, what has led them to activate that option ✏

I told them to enable omemo by default after the convo at the joinjabber room yesterday or something. and they went through settings to look for it. and enabled it then

they have no idea why though

/shurg

What does

oops didn't mean to send yet

oh wait RTFM

Philipp Hörist pushed 1 commit to branch _refs/heads/master_ of _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim >: *f3baca3c* < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/f3baca3c34c79b74f6535ead13fc1666b398b2b0 > imprv: MessageInput: Regain focus on common key presses

fjklp, ^ have fun testing, i expect this will introduce some bugs regarding shortcuts, but lets try

Thanks for 1.8.3 \o/

Its hit the testing repo on Arch Linux this morning, and I have signed it off, should be available for all Arch users in the following days :)

There are currently not enough testers using gajim to have both sign offs for approval, but its in [extra] so its not mandatory

What do you need to do exactly to sign off?

test the basic functions... is there any errors... are there regressions (did something break in newer versions), then report the issue, if the issue is upstream then you report it to upstream and then report the report to Arch so that they can track it, if it is a breakage due to a packaging problem, then report it to Arch and let them handle it (and then test their fix)

its not the most fun job, but its important :)

[extra] packages don't need testing, but all [core] packages MUST be tested

I just have to use testing right?

well that is the roll description yes

xD

Ah ok ✏

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Arch_Testing_Team

I use testing already

Just that I don't generally have to report anything because it just works :x

Also I don't have a tester account, maybe I should

well if you use testing

then you may as well

but you will be signing up to reporting issues

if you find an issue report it... and remember to sign off software you use

Yeah I guess it's a habit to take.. I'll see how much time that takes me :x

feel free to join #archlinux-testing on IRC and ask about the job there, so that this MUC doesn't get polluted, you should always check #archlinux-testing on liber.achat too

and the arch-dev-public mailing list

> fjklp, ^ have fun testing, i expect this will introduce some bugs regarding shortcuts, but lets try Nice. I'm testing. 🙂

real

polarian, I’m on manjaro testing (so still behind arch linux stable branch)

is it helpful to test gajim 1.8.3 on this system? maybe from AUR…

Cyrille, no... to test for Arch Linux you must be running Arch Linux with the testing repositories uncommented

ok make sense

> is it helpful to test gajim 1.8.3 on this system? maybe from AUR… gajim is not in the AUR

Arch is better than manjaro anyways 😉

I think I used to have gajim-git from the AUR

Yeah.. but they do not get official testing

it must be in the Arch Linux repository to be tested

and testing is mainly for `[core]`

lol, not the point, I think both are equally the same (I have Arch in another PC)

I mean, the same nowadays. Was not the case before

>> is it helpful to test gajim 1.8.3 on this system? maybe from AUR… > gajim is not in the AUR > > Arch is better than manjaro anyways 😉 I just installed it from there yesterday, the AUR is there and working :P

Unfortunately I don’t use Gajim on the other computer and no point in testing there

ok got it polarian, you’re planning on having official arch linux package for gajim

good to hear !

Cyrille, its already is an official package xD

has been for a long time

https://archlinux.org/packages/extra/any/gajim/

see

Also 1.8.3 is now in the repository \o/

polarian: nice

I am sure the gajim devs are just relieved Arch actually is updating gajim now :P

I meant 1.8.3

So many people jumped to void linux because of Arch not keeping gajim updated xD

Philipp Hörist pushed 1 commit to branch _refs/heads/master_ of _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim >: *53ea0175* < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/53ea01750298fe6d95fa02b41cd60ec460bdd667 > imprv: HTTPUpload: Remove temporary files after transfer Fixes #11579

> So many people jumped to void linux because of Arch not keeping gajim updated xD That was due to python 3.11 migration

Sad news 3.12 is already out lets work 6month to migrate 2500package 🥵

when gajim mobile friendly like dino to use it on mobian pmos and etc?

Louis: it was never intended for mobile

real

a different ui on top of nbxmpp could be nice :)

Is anything specific happening re DNS/Tor in Gajim? I'm trying to figure out what doesn't work in Dino

MSavoritias (fae,ve): huh?

it was to the gajim mobile friendly. i was mentioning that somebody can take the library behind gajim and make a mobile friendly ui on top

pep., TOR does only support A and AAAA record resolution, keep that in mind

other than that, no, nothing special is happening

Yeah I know. And I realized Dino didn't care much and got me SRV records anyway, so I figured it didn't use Tor for DNS

so how do you configure tor?

should it not be impossible to get SRV records, that would mean dino does not use tor

of course the server could block tor connections also

do you have a different client that works with the same server over tor?

> Louis: it was never intended for mobile I know, but maybe someone oneday could be interested on working on it. I would if I had the skills

anyway, it's just a suggestion as I like gajim desktop a lot

Philipp Hörist pushed 1 commit to branch _refs/heads/master_ of _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim >: *dfbf5a8e* < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/dfbf5a8ed4d8cc521c941b160a0afbecc1df43b4 > fix: Avatar: Draw status circle correctly for scale > 1

Daniel Brötzmann pushed 1 commit to branch _refs/heads/master_ of _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim >: *6651b2d4* < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/6651b2d4997ed133069882f4549b3f1b1fc5d19d > fix: Message input: Don't allow text actions if input is disabled

what is status circle?

a circle that shows a status 😁

the colored dot in the status selector

Philipp Hörist pushed 1 commit to branch _refs/heads/master_ of _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim >: *829ee4a2* < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/829ee4a2c34f3605093daf99efb21e3120bbbc48 > fix: Icons: Register icon size to make it work for scale > 1

my big gajim guy shrunk :)

Daniel Brötzmann pushed 1 commit to branch _refs/heads/master_ of _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim >: *6767244a* < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/6767244a98172e1bf148526f72189dd4236d6ea0 > fix: ChatList: Update mute state periodically Fixes #11456

> so how do you configure tor? On gajim just the regular way via the proxy settings. I have the tor daemon running and serving socks5 on localhost:9050 as usual. For dino I use torsocks, or maybe the {all,http{,s}}_proxy variables (all set to socks5), I think that worked too

I'm more or less sure I get Dino to connect via Tor to the host, but yeah it got my SRV records so that's definitely not Tor.

Daniel Brötzmann pushed 1 commit to branch _refs/heads/master_ of _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim >: *e1b4bc44* < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/e1b4bc44c0ca026d5aa41bd2eb8dbb33245197db > cfix: Fix contrast of decorative Gajim symbolic background icon

>fix: ChatList: Update mute state periodically I'm just curious, is there some reason that the mute timer timeout cannot signal an update of the icon?

there is no mute timer

thats what this commit implements

umm, we've had an option to mute chat for 30 min, 1 hr, etc. for awhile

yeah but that does not mean you need a timer

30 mins means i set a timestamp to 23:30

ok

when a message comes it checks if its past 23:30

no need for some running timer

I see

is it more difficult to do a timer?

its not difficult just not an elegant solution to have X timers running in the background

its easier to save a timestamp

and periodically check if we are past that timestamp

then you have 1 timer running for 100 chats

and not 100 timers

I defer to your choice, but my thinking is that it's more graceful to do a timer, then update icon when done

I imagine the cost of multiple timers is low

A timer? How do you do a client-side timer?

but it does not scale

Or I don't get the feature maybe

pep., we are talking about code, a callback in X seconds

Ah

I thought it was a mute timer, that is muting a person in a room for X seconds :P

(Which would be ok, but a bit hard to do client-side)

timed notification muting for chats ✏

time-limited notification muting for chats ✏

🖖️

that reminds me, i will watch now one more start trek episode

then go to sleep

lovetox: is there anything you would recommend to test with focus returning other than conflicting with shortcuts?

star trek is pretty cool :)

no i guess just use it, as i know you, you will run into something :D

lol, I'll try :)

it's working fine so far

yeah i also made sure you can select text now from a message, copy and then just hit ctrl + v

which reminds me, would be cool to have one shortcut that does this in one go

without ctrl + c and ctrl + v

basically a "move this selection to my input"

like quote selection?

with a >

yeah

or maybe not quoting?

but yeah most of the time you want quoting

with quoting is more likely useful to me, I think

maybe not even selecting

just place the cursor in a message

and then hit shortcut, should quote the whole message

basically what the message menu "Quote" button does

Make it Ctrl+Q and.. where did Gajim go?

middle-click a line?

ah middle-click already pasts the selection

so this feature is already present on linux

close

it's not much to then press home, the type >

I think middle click quoting would be nice though

how do you creat a xmpp server and how do you connect it too your gajim client, looked everywhere> ✏

how do you creat a xmpp server and how do you connect it too your gajim client, looked everywhere? ✏

Linuxhelptipsxmpp: what gajim version are you using?

are you wanting to create a server or a new group chat on an existing server? ✏

if you want to create a group chat, just click the + icon at the upper left of the window and click 'Create Group Chat'

that will create a group chat at the domain of the account you choose in that window