Gajim - 2023-11-04

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When I sent an omemo message to a contact for the first time in a private message, it worked as expected. ✏

When I sent an omemo message to a contact in a private message via muc (what is this properly called?), the fist sent message resulted in info messages from gajim

unfortunately those messages disappeared after switching chats

there were two messages. Something like "Checking for devices to encrypt to." Then "No trusted devices found" then a button to "Manage Trust".

All this when I have blind trust enabled. Then, with no further configuration changes, the next message went through, encrypted. Isn't this a bug? Shouldn't the first message get posted with omemo with no extra warnings/notices?

If on gajim you deactivate the saving of passwords by system password manager, it will save the passwords in the plain in a gajim configuration dir.

Philipp Hörist pushed 2 commits to branch _refs/heads/master_ of _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim >: *a7162c47* < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/a7162c47915b3bf74d44342c6264c9853fc5f46b > fix: ServerInfo: Use domain instead of hostname for queries Fixes #11653 *0e92bf3f* < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/0e92bf3fcbf701b7a2bdfe477dd6c28e4ec25be4 > fix: Avatar: Send presence after changing avatar Fixes #11669

fjklp, its not a bug, that is the way we written it

you want that user experience?

not necessarily, but the alternativ is too much work for too little gain

hello

Philipp Hörist pushed 1 commit to branch _refs/heads/master_ of _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim >: *546669e2* < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/546669e2cd155fda1b1d9bb9c595ca040ee6e4b8 > fix: Control: Add events with correct timestamp Fixes #11670

Philipp Hörist pushed 1 commit to branch _refs/heads/master_ of _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim >: *86da1256* < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/86da12569b76e38a545ccac598fd6587c62c711e > fix: Presence: Don’t fail on unknown MUC presences Fixes #10967

lovetox: What's the issue with Windows system shutdown?

we dont know when it happens

we need to catch the event somehow that windows sends

there are specific WM_* events that are sent to the application window when Windows shutsdown

How is it different from the app being closed by the user?

Philipp Hörist pushed 1 commit to branch _refs/heads/master_ of _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim >: *18716764* < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/187167640fba0c4269bc8a9f9fc22763d8e20b40 > fix: Audio/Video: Disable broken stun server code Fixes #11559

lovetox: I think the only way of doing that would be to use pywin32, but that would mean having to use threads

https://github.com/grintor/win_graceful_shutdown

https://github.com/neeeel/TimeTracker/blob/master/taskbar.py#L18

why? because the win runtime api lets you not set a callback to wndproc?

Could we use https://docs.python.org/3/library/atexit.html ?

you cannot use anything in the python world

> why? because the win runtime api lets you not set a callback to wndproc? It seems that you need to win32gui.RegisterClass and win32gui.CreateWindow for it to actually work ↺

a user posted an example in the issue

how it would work, without pywin32

you just need to tap into the window message queue

i wondererd if this is possible with winrt, more easily

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/apps/develop/dispatcherqueue ??

sounds like it but i doubt its it, the example code in the issue is also problematic i think, it sets a new address for the wndproc callback ✏

not sure if we dont overwrite then other code that sets this like GTK

How is it handled in other apps?

i dont know any GTK apps that are python and handle this

ah i see the code in the example should work

it call the original wndproc callback after processing the event

the routine that matches the window, i dont really understand

it says, if its in the same thread and the window is visible

why does it need to be visible ..

polarian: hello. if you recall i continued working on the movim aur package. i managed to get it working to an extent https://movim.gtk.ge but i haven't had the time to continue in a while. would you like to take over?

this isn't the movim channel :P

taba2, submit a patch to git.polarian.dev (routing issues currently, unreachable with IPv4, v6 only) or email me a patch to polarian@polarian.dev

wait I don't think I pulled movim

https://git.polarian.dev/AUR/movim

i'll try

> it says, if its in the same thread and the window is visible > > why does it need to be visible .. Maybe they mean that the app has to have a window, but it can be minimized?

Anyway, I see a bigger issue. I don't see that namespace in the WinRT reference: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/uwp/api/

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/apps/windows-app-sdk/

Hm

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-app-sdk/api/winrt/?view=windows-app-sdk-1.4

taba2, done?

Daniel Brötzmann pushed 1 commit to branch _refs/heads/master_ of _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim >: *fd7d7606* < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/fd7d760609f058d948ba990928b033de020fdddb > fix: Message row menu: Show quote and copy actions only if there is text Fixes #11652

gajim bandwidth issues is really getting on my nerves :/

polarian, no idea what you are talking about

cal0pteryx, constant disconnects from the MUCs (a few days ago I couldn't connect for 24 hours), dev.gajim.org taking 20 minutes to load

it doesn't seem to be an issue on my end

others say they had the same issue too

polarian, it's a server issue, and it's being worked on

By any chance is it a lack of bandwidth? xD

works fine for me

> gajim bandwidth issues has nothing to do with Gajim :) it's gajim.org's servers, not the client you are talking about

I was referring to the servers...

not obvious :) but it's being worked on

nice.

who maintains the gajim servers anyways?

asterix, the creator of Gajim

ah right, the person who isn't around very much :P

I assume they are busy a lot

priorities change, but he's still maintaining stuff for gajim.org's infrastructure, which is nice

Is it in the cloud? or local?

afaik it's hosted locally, but that's about what I know

polarian: i'm not done, sorry

cal0pteryx, would explain the issues :)

you don't have to check up on me to find the email do you?

(no offense)

lovetox: what do you think about https://windows-toasts.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ for notifications?

taba2, what do you mean by that?

polarian, it has nothing to do with bandwidth, and it's being addressed. please be patient

I am just curious what the issue is

polarian: i'll just email you the patxh

sysadmin to sysadmin :P

kiss

taba2, ah ok

whether it will go through with my network shitfuckery right now is another question :D

mimi89999, sure try it, check also the issues on that project seems there are some unsolved problems

It looks quite nice

If on gajim you deactivate the saving of passwords by system password manager, it will save the passwords in the plain in a gajim configuration dir.

cryptomobley: you posted that before. It's intentional. Where else would your password be stored? It even has a hint saying that it is saved on disk in plain

> cryptomobley: you posted that before. It's intentional. Where else would your password be stored? It even has a hint saying that it is saved on disk in plain It's problem for security ↺

If you purposefully disable security, yes there is none for you :)

cal0pteryx, it's possible to save the hashed scram thingy maybe? if it's scram