Gajim - 2023-11-03

Is a 'there are devices that you didn't yet decide to trust' notice in the chat view and shields with ! sings normal for blind trust mode? I don't have those despite having blind trust on, but a friend does. What's behind the difference?

If it's due to blind trust disabled for a contact for whatever reason (the toggle says blind trust enabled), the can it be reset?

Does gajim have build in tor?

I see option for tor and tor browser In setting

How is this used

that connects to tor using using socks, no guarantees that things won't be leaked. DNS might leak.

you have to have Tor installed separately to use that, it is not built into gajim

I think torsocks is the recommended way, but I've had problems with that

> but that would not explain the 100% cpu lovetox it was caused by the xml console being opened

use socat

set a systemd user service that has a socat socks 4a to the domain ur connecting to

butttt

that only covers that one host

umu: how does this relate to Tor?

so disable file previews

socat TCP-LISTEN:1234 SOCKS4A:127.0.0.1:remoteip:5678,socksport=9050

something like this

idk it's just reliable way to connect over Tor for most things

for me idm connecting to my sever over Tor and then downloading files without tor

I kind of like this as an option

robertoo: did your friend make a manual trust decision at some point? I do not use (or recommend) blind trust, but iirc omemo fingerprints in gajim can/could have an auto trust state, try toggling the contact fingerprints to that > With BTBV enabled, Gajim will blindly trust any device a contact might be using, and new devices will be trusted as well. As long as you don’t verify a fingerprint, Gajim will mark any new fingerprint as ‘blindly trusted’. As soon as you verify a contact, you have to verify every new fingerprint (e.g. if the contact adds a new device).

Hi all ! i want try nbxmpp-client https://pypi.org/project/nbxmpp-client/ ..... but i dont know how to install gtk4 in python

astanad_: if you are not on windows, your distribution should have it

iam on windows 10

hannibal, how can i install gtk4 with pip command ?

I don't think it's available via pip. As I am no Windows user, I cannot help you with that.

hannibal, okey thanks :)

222m5: no, they didn't do a manual trust decision AFAIK. All the fingerprints have "blind trust" status in their client which I assume is the auto trust don't ask state

222m5: so hypothetically if this is caused by them trying to verify some fingerprint by mistake and then reverting that back to blind trust. Can this be reset, ie. so that they don't have to verify every new fingerprint / no longer have fingerprint notices?

robertoo: best ask one of the devs what the easiest / recommended way is to do that ;)

Devs? You there?

robertoo: wait... people arent available 24/7

astanad_, you cannot install it on windows

how do i pronounce gajim

seacat, `/ɡɛˈʒiːm/`

thanks

btw, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gajim who picked _this_ screenshot!?

Nanane94

someone ought to replace it

as it does not reflect actual gajim

> you have to have Tor installed separately to use that, it is not built into gajim Tor browser or tor system ↺

meson, you dont like our main feature the server info window?

robertoo, yes, simply press the shield and set to blind trust, if every fingerprint is on blind trust it will not ask you anymore

> > you have to have Tor installed separately to use that, it is not built into gajim > Tor browser or tor system tor system

Do you guys think mullvad is trusted

And does it work with gajim

lovetox, no, it's actually great. The chat functionality is definitely overrated 😹️

I mean who uses that in Gajim...

Did somebody change it back? I only see the main window's screenshot I uploaded a while ago

cal0pteryx, nope I still see Discover services and Server info: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gajim#/media/File:Server_info_Gajim.png

and it's a pretty old screenshot from 2018

Ah that one, yeah I see that one, too. But the main screenshot is of Gajim's main window

uh, now I see the issue ...

https://share.conversations.im/meeson_/Qq9TkKwtgtHVy7D1/Screenshot_20231103_195102.png

by bad, for some reason the screenshot was hidden by default

> robertoo, yes, simply press the shield and set to blind trust, if every fingerprint is on blind trust it will not bronko

ask you anymore

lovetox, there's no such toggle in there. If you mean the Blind Trust toggle in account settings, that one's turned on...

in the dialog where the fingerprints are

Daniel Brötzmann pushed 1 commit to branch _refs/heads/master_ of _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim >: *de79ed08* < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/de79ed087629ad10dda0857a1abfe6362b918dd4 > cq: Fix _on_draft_update content type

i think gajim's logo should be a bit bigger, no

in the wikipedia's article

also, the screenshot shouldn't be hidden

seacat, I'm about to change that :)

hooray

can't seem to change to logo size. there is a parameter, but it's nowhere documented

Daniel Brötzmann pushed 1 commit to branch _refs/heads/master_ of _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim >: *52033455* < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/52033455efe1277ead65d0f3403ba5b10ecce1e2 > cq: Logging: Use ISO format for timestamps Closes #11576

Just installed a new Ubuntu 23.10 installation and installed Gajim from repository. Plugin OMEMO is missing...

Hiker, OMEMO has been integrated. no idea which version 23.10 ships?

But under "plugins" OMEMO isn´t noted...

It won't appear under plugins anymore. The functionality is integrated. It should be in your account settings instead. What version are you using?

>Closes #11576 nice

Yes I see now - in the dialog config für P2P OMEMO is given as option - so everything ok !

Yes, found it in the account settings - btw version is 1.8.1

Hiker, that's good :)

Post dates are working again: https://gajim.org/post/2023-10-29-gajim-1.8.2-released/

Oh I see, current version would be 1.8.2 - so flatpak would be better than Ubuntu repository?

Hiker, ubuntu doesn't receive updates that often, so if you want to be on the latest version, flatpak would be an option

freebsd is still on 1.3.3

is the maintainer here?

Ok , will see - thanks.

Daniel Brötzmann pushed 1 commit to branch _refs/heads/master_ of _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim >: *0611f8d6* < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/0611f8d683560d9fad8877a1ca4f7208c39d88d2 > fix: Emojis: Improve detection of shortcode start Fixes #11594

How to sync between desktop and phone?

cal0pteryx: do you fix these things at random or do you have a list in mind of the ones you want to fix?

the emoji one felt kind of random to me :)

are there any settings on Gajim that i should pay attention to

fjklp, it was random, I browsed issues and thought, well, that should be easy to reproduce

var, not that i know of, if you dont have a problem, dont change anything

what about privacy settings

there certainly are issues I like to have fixed, but some are complex and not a thing for some free minutes inbetween (those complex ones need more motivation, and planning)

I'm certainly not complaining. I appreciate all work done. I can see how a lot of it does require planning to prevent wasted effort.